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Go Royals 08-07-2020 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 15104066)
Are these new CP buzzwords? I haven't logged on much lately. Anyways LMK!!

Buzzwords or not - you seem nice.

DJ's left nut 08-07-2020 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 15104066)
Are these new CP buzzwords? I haven't logged on much lately. Anyways LMK!!

Coincidence.

And if I'm using anything Clay is, I should probably reconsider.

Chief Roundup 08-07-2020 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 15104063)
Yeah, it's a loss of depth. But Niang was a huge question mark if only for health concerns. You can't pencil him in as any kind of clear upgrade, especially if Rankin manages to make it back in any kind of shape. And Osemele brings the same health issues that LDT did but with legitimate Pro Bowl upside that LDT didn't have.



Ultimately I just can't see any kind of support for the idea that the line is WORSE. We replaced LDT w/ a guy with the same floor and a higher ceiling. Niang was a wild card in his own right who would've essentially taken Wisniewki's roster spot. Okay, well we got Wiz off the street in week 6 - maybe that was more about the system than the player. The player himself was street free agent depth.



And if Fisher doesn't miss 9 weeks this year, the line will be HUGELY improved over last year, regardless of what else happens on the interior. Again - Cameron Erving took more snaps at LT last year than Eric Fisher did.



Yes, there's absolutely a path to this line being better than last year's line. All we need is a healthy Fisher and its essentially a lock. Losing a rookie (who had no camp and was coming off a serious injury) and a declining G doesn't change that.

I don't see how this OL is any better. If you are not improving you are going backwards.

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DJ's left nut 08-07-2020 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 15104105)
I don't see how this OL is any better. If you are not improving you are going backwards.

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Oh.

I mean...that's certainly nonsense. So you do you, boo.

staylor26 08-07-2020 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 15104105)
I don't see how this OL is any better. If you are not improving you are going backwards.

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:facepalm:

RunKC 08-07-2020 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 15104105)
I don't see how this OL is any better. If you are not improving you are going backwards.

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Fisher, Reiter and Schwartz are back.

LDT was struggling last year. Hard to think there is much of any disparity with Osemele.

Remmers=Erving. He might actually be better but for the sake of argument they’re equal.

Rankin was good when he played and 2nd year Allegretti>rookie Allegretti. Then you have Daryl Williams as a developmental player with potential.

Not seeing where we went backwards here

RealSNR 08-07-2020 10:13 AM

We didn't pay starting G money for Wisniewski, which was absolutely the right move. We'll likely see a downgrade at LG from where we were at in the playoffs.

But HUGE hit to our OL depth? Incoming catastrophe? A line made up of nothing but Cameron Ervings and Mike McGlynns? No. Not at all. For the most part, we're largely unchanged, and if we hit on any of these guards, we're just as good if not better than where we were last year.

We'll be fine.

The Franchise 08-07-2020 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15104127)
Fisher, Reiter and Schwartz are back.

LDT was struggling last year. Hard to think there is much of any disparity with Osemele.

Remmers=Erving. He might actually be better but for the sake of argument they’re equal.

Rankin was good when he played and 2nd year Allegretti>rookie Allegretti. Then you have Daryl Williams as a developmental player with potential.

Not seeing where we went backwards here

Osemele is LG. Wylie will be RG.

DJ's left nut 08-07-2020 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15104138)
Osemele is LG. Wylie will be RG.

A position he played at least as well as LDT did in 2018.

I think Wylie was really exposed by having to play alongside Erving last year. He's a fine complementary player and by playing next to Schwartz next season, I think we'll see a similar performance to what we got out of him in '18 and LDT in '19.

If Osemele and Fisher stay healthy (admittedly a major if for both guys after their injuries last season, but both guys had relatively strong health histories leading up to a major injury in '19), the line will absolutely be improved over what it was in '19.

CasselGotPeedOn 08-07-2020 11:01 AM

Is Niang the only rookie to opt out?

MMXcalibur 08-07-2020 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 15104137)
We didn't pay starting G money for Wisniewski, which was absolutely the right move. We'll likely see a downgrade at LG from where we were at in the playoffs.

But HUGE hit to our OL depth? Incoming catastrophe? A line made up of nothing but Cameron Ervings and Mike McGlynns? No. Not at all. For the most part, we're largely unchanged, and if we hit on any of these guards, we're just as good if not better than where we were last year.

We'll be fine.

I don't think you quite understand what the modus operandi is around here, n00b.

FloridaMan88 08-07-2020 11:20 AM

As long as Schwartz and Fisher stay healthy, the Chiefs will be fine.

Titty Meat 08-07-2020 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15104074)
My best guess right now is:

Fisher - Osemele - Reiter - Wylie - Schwartz

Remmers is your swing tackle. Rankin and Allegretti are your interior backups.

And we’ll keep 10 OL...maybe more so you’ve got other guys in there as well.

Is it the best offensive line out there? No. But we’ve got great OTs and Reid has shown the ability to find at least average starters on the interior.

Yikes I really hate the Reiter Wylie pairing it seemed to get Mahomes injured atleast 3 times last year.

The Franchise 08-07-2020 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 15104244)
Yikes I really hate the Reiter Wylie pairing it seemed to get Mahomes injured atleast 3 times last year.

Like DJ has pointed out though....that’s when Wylie was next to Erving. He should be better between Reiter and Schwartz.

Pasta Little Brioni 08-07-2020 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 15104244)
Yikes I really hate the Reiter Wylie pairing it seemed to get Mahomes injured atleast 3 times last year.

The line is fine. Watch more football


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