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TambaBerry 02-18-2018 03:04 PM

I'm not trading a top corner for a draft pick. It's stupid and you should feel stupid for even suggesting it as a possibility. Veach says he wants to get younger. We have a top 5 corner/ turnover machine in Peters.

Easy 6 02-18-2018 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 13423858)
I'm not trading a top corner for a draft pick. It's stupid and you should feel stupid for even suggesting it as a possibility. Veach says he wants to get younger. We have a top 5 corner/ turnover machine in Peters.

I find it highly unlikely as well, but stranger things have happened... and none of us knows what Veach is thinking

KranzDictum 02-18-2018 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach (Post 13423844)
And those who are touting that the Chiefs should sign Talib....

No thanks. He's on the wrong side of 30 and he's what you'd call a "depreciating value" in the CB market.

Talib is willing to tackle and can still cover, he is worth a 2-3 year deal, that is why I don't want to see him leave Denver. The real issue with your D is the front not getting pressure to help out the back end.

I think if Cleveland is willing to give up the #4 pick in the draft for Peters and maybe your 2nd or 3rd, the target would be a pass rusher like Davenport or Chubb if there. I don't see Cleveland giving away it's fourth overall pick for Peters straight up just based on Jimmy Johnson's draft day trade charts. Peters was taken with the 18th pick in the draft if GM's go by spot taken to determine value. It is hard to monetize his draft pick value especially when your talking a top 5 pick.

RealSNR 02-18-2018 03:16 PM

Well, according to like 75% of the dumbshits on this board, the Chiefs were just supposed flat out cut Peters' ass after his pseudo-ejection during a game this year. Because they just "had enough."

Interesting that they're all running on silent or have changed their position to "we should trade him!"

O.city 02-18-2018 03:17 PM

The browns aren’t trading the #4 pick for Peters

Sassy Squatch 02-18-2018 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13423881)
The browns aren’t trading the #4 pick for Peters

Nope. That's why this is a non issue.

O.city 02-18-2018 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13423882)
Nope. That's why this is a non issue.

Similarly I’d imagine the chiefs aren’t open to trading Peters

KranzDictum 02-18-2018 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13423881)
The browns aren’t trading the #4 pick for Peters

I agree, probably Peters and the chiefs 2nd or 3rd and or a mid to low pick in 2019.

RunKC 02-18-2018 03:22 PM

Veach said he wants youth...not old players nearing the end like Talib.

O.city 02-18-2018 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by KranzDictum (Post 13423892)
I agree, probably Peters and the chiefs 2nd or 3rd and or a mid to low pick in 2019.

Still isn’t happening

Sassy Squatch 02-18-2018 03:24 PM

LMAO This is the best the Broncos trolls can do now. No wonder Knowmo ran crying and screaming when Dane was mean to him.

Coach 02-18-2018 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by KranzDictum (Post 13423876)
Talib is willing to tackle and can still cover, he is worth a 2-3 year deal, that is why I don't want to see him leave Denver. The real issue with your D is the front not getting pressure to help out the back end.

I think if Cleveland is willing to give up the #4 pick in the draft for Peters and maybe your 2nd or 3rd, the target would be a pass rusher like Davenport or Chubb if there. I don't see Cleveland giving away it's fourth overall pick for Peters straight up just based on Jimmy Johnson's draft day trade charts. Peters was taken with the 18th pick in the draft if GM's go by spot taken to determine value. It is hard to monetize his draft pick value especially when your talking a top 5 pick.

While he is willing to tackle and still can cover, I'm not a big fan of spending sums of money on CB's who are on the wrong side of 30. Because some CB's decline gracefully (Terrance Newman is one), some fall off of the cliff as well. That being said, I wouldn't be surprised if Denver decides to hold onto him anyways, which would make this discussion moot (which I hope it happens).

I agree with you that KC's issue is the front seven. When you are ranked 25th in the NFL on rush defense, that's going to pose a lot of problems. Not to mention that KC is ranked 24th in the NFL on sacks.

KC needs to targeting their front seven (except Ragland and Houston) to resolve these issues.

Easy 6 02-18-2018 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13423896)
Veach said he wants youth...not old players nearing the end like Talib.

This

**** that guy, I dont care how good it looks on paper

pugsnotdrugs19 02-18-2018 03:33 PM

I was cool with the Talib idea until we managed to haul Fuller in. Not anymore. Fuller is the better long term option, and probably the better short term option given Talib could slide at any moment.

DaneMcCloud 02-18-2018 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13423888)
Similarly I’d imagine the chiefs aren’t open to trading Peters

I disagree.

The new breed of GM’s across the league are very different than the old school, older men that they’ve replaced. As we’ve seen in the last year alone, teams are more aggressively trading assets for picks. We’ve seen NBA style salary dumps and more player-for-player trades.

We just saw the Redskins trade their best and youngest secondary player in a deal for a QB.

Things are beginning to change in the NFL and with the continuation of a very healthy rise in the salary cap, I’d be surprised if all but the best QB’s are off limits.

Outside of Pat Mahomes and Eric Berry, no one is safe in this new environment.


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