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Hoover 07-22-2018 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 13639451)
AL teams are basically set except for the last WC spot.

Oakland & Seattle are the teams you need to be looking at for a trade in the AL.

And I wouldn't think either of those two teams are going to take on much in terms of contracts.

BigRedChief 07-22-2018 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 13639453)
And I wouldn't think either of those two teams are going to take on much in terms of contracts.

WTF? We have the hottest bat in MLB and no one is going to want to add that bat to their lineup? I find that hard to believe.

But, it would be our luck. The Chiefs get the 1st pick in the draft and there isn’t shit there to draft.

jd1020 07-22-2018 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 13639456)
WTF? We have the hottest bat in MLB and no one is going to want to add that bat to their lineup? I find that hard to believe.

But, it would be our luck. The Chiefs get the 1st pick in the draft and there isn’t shit there to draft.

It's the position he plays and what its going to cost to get him. He needs to be a big upgrade to justify the cost. The team trading for him also has to have the pieces the Cardinals would want.

Mariners dont. Rockies do but highly doubt they trade Brendan Rodgers, in which case they dont. Phillies look an awful lot like the Cardinals. They do have a couple once highly thought of prospects like JP Crawford the Cardinals might want but to say they are struggling in the majors would be an understatement.

Yankees are the team to talk to but is Carpenter enough over Greg Bird who has a .911 OPS over the last month? Probably not. They need pitching.

BigRedChief 07-22-2018 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 13639459)
It's the position he plays and what its going to cost to get him. He needs to be a big upgrade to justify the cost.

the Cards have money to kick in to make the deal.

jd1020 07-22-2018 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 13639461)
the Cards have money to kick in to make the deal.

I'm not talking about the contract. Carpenter's contract vs his production is nothing.

I'm talking about players.

BigRedChief 07-22-2018 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 13639465)
I'm not talking about the contract. Carpenter's contract vs his production is nothing.

I'm talking about players.

wellll whatever we get, right now, this moment in time, is going to be the most we will ever get for him.

Hoover 07-22-2018 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 13639459)
It's the position he plays and what its going to cost to get him. He needs to be a big upgrade to justify the cost. The team trading for him also has to have the pieces the Cardinals would want.

Mariners dont. Rockies do but highly doubt they trade Brendan Rodgers, in which case they dont. Phillies look an awful lot like the Cardinals. They do have a couple once highly thought of prospects like JP Crawford the Cardinals might want but to say they are struggling in the majors would be an understatement.

Yankees are the team to talk to but is Carpenter enough over Greg Bird who has a .911 OPS over the last month? Probably not. They need pitching.

Look at Oakland, they add Jeurys Familia, a nice addition to the bullpen. He's a free agent after the end of the year. The Mets got a mid-level thirdbase prospect and a 26 year old reliever - who isn't anything to really get excited about. They are not about to add 32 million in future payroll.

jd1020 07-22-2018 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 13639477)
Look at Oakland, they add Jeurys Familia, a nice addition to the bullpen. He's a free agent after the end of the year. The Mets got a mid-level thirdbase prospect and a 26 year old reliever - who isn't anything to really get excited about. They are not about to add 32 million in future payroll.

I wouldn't say that they would decline Carpenter's contract. It's just not their time right now. They are a contender for the WC but they aren't a contender to actually do anything in the playoffs. They are battling the Mariners to see who plays the Yankees or Red Sox in the wildcard.

BigRedChief 07-23-2018 03:26 PM

Wong to the DL just as Munoz nears .295 BA and showing improvement in his defense. Another Convient injury?

'Hamas' Jenkins 07-23-2018 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 13639493)
I wouldn't say that they would decline Carpenter's contract. It's just not their time right now. They are a contender for the WC but they aren't a contender to actually do anything in the playoffs. They are battling the Mariners to see who plays the Yankees or Red Sox in the wildcard.

If you make it in the playoffs, you can win. The Pirates could win the WS if they had sequencing luck for 20 games.

jd1020 07-23-2018 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 13640795)
If you make it in the playoffs, you can win. The Pirates could win the WS if they had sequencing luck for 20 games.

I guess. When you've got so many teams to go through that are just head and shoulders above you it becomes less about luck and more about planes crashing.

It'll be that same logic that keeps the Cardinals from selling, though.

'Hamas' Jenkins 07-23-2018 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 13640834)
I guess. When you've got so many teams to go through that are just head and shoulders above you it becomes less about luck and more about planes crashing.

It'll be that same logic that keeps the Cardinals from selling, though.

There's a difference between being set as a WC team and trying to get to the game. The WC game is a coinflip or 60-40 even in cases of pretty big talent discrepancy.

The Cardinals have to pass multiple teams to even get to the coinflip. They should sell, and the fans know they should sell. What will keep them from selling isn't that, but Mozeliak's desire to hold his own job, which is why Holland, Cecil, and Fowler are still on the team. If DeWitt were smart, he'd fire Mozeliak at the end of the season regardless, and immediately if he even suggested buying anything.

MarkDavis'Haircut 07-23-2018 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 13640795)
If you make it in the playoffs, you can win. The Pirates could win the WS if they had sequencing luck for 20 games.

I like this post. We just need luck. Our management is too cheap to sign it.

BigRedChief 07-23-2018 06:55 PM

Poncedeleon has a no hitter going into the 7th inning in his major league debut.

Jewish Rabbi 07-23-2018 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 13640982)
Poncedeleon has a no hitter going into the 7th inning in his major league debut.

Glad you jinxed it this time not me :)


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