How is that not a timeout? WTF?

Oh, I had no real expectations that you would stop. You're pretty committed to criticizing this guy for no real reason.

I'm just saying that you don't like him and are using this as a way to bash him. A quick check of your post history involving LeBron confirms that for me.

No, they just say he's missed that shot over a small sample size this year. They also don't indicate how many of those misses came on open and uncontested shots. In that way, the stat is largely meaningless for our purposes.

15 feet, 18 feet, whatever. I'll take the wide open jump shot from a proven NBA player over a difficult, contested shot any time during a game. It's a higher percentage play, it's the right basketball play.

Wade just kicked Bynum in the nutsack.

Perfect D by Blake.

Wade sucks. Hard.

Well that was reeruned, Artest.

Kobe forces alot of shots.

lol Wade is frustrated

WADE SO MAD

Wade fouls out.

LMAO Wade fouls out

Wow, garbage call.

BYE WADE! YOU BITCH!

Van Gundy is a moron.

How is that a great play? Clear foul.

LOL ok.

See ya D Whistle! Games a bit tougher when you dont get every ****ing call.

Now it's time for Lebron to fail as the lone ranger.

Derrick Rose is the anti-Lebron

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not really he clearly hit his wrist

Van Gundy disagrees.

the other announcer disagrees with Van Gundy.

Good job Mike Brown idiot

At home, that wouldn't be a foul on Wade. In LA, yeah, it is.

Ok that was BS. The guy was in the lane for 20 minutes

Hey Lebron, how does Kobe's ass taste?

The other announcer is a journalist with, maybe, 1/1,000,000th the basketball knowledge of Van Gundy.

Just like your post history confirms you bash Kobe every chance you get.

Mike Breen has been doing NBA games for 20 years he is no idiot

sorry, wrong thread

This game isn't over yet guys. Udonis Haslem will lead the Heat back. Sure, he's only 0 for 5 from the field right now, but this is the part of the game where he really shines.

No, but Van Gundy's knowledge from playing, coaching, calling games for 30+ years >>>>> Breen calling games for 20 years

Wrong, I'm a Kobe fan. I generally like the Lakers as a team more than the Heat (Metta is one of my favorite players in the league, if not my favorite). I just don't get how people can watch the two play (LeBron and Kobe) and objectively call Kobe the superior player. He's not.

basket interference yo! Ref's missed that one.

Whos still sayibgn that outside of blind Lakers homers? LEbron is the best player in the league probably for a few years now, but so what? Kobe still a ****ing beast.

Lebron will be one of the all time greats, but he needs to step up when the pressure is the biggest so far he hasnt. Thats alle veryone is really saying.

Down goes Lebron uh oh

Blind LeBron haters, mostly. There are a lot of those.

It's OK - more shot attempts for Haslem!

Not going to win when you shoot 38%. Ready for Tuesday with Bosh back in the lineup.

Game over. This game was really never that close at least it didn't seem like it.

Also I don't get why the Heat aren't playing their best shooter in Jones

It wasn't. Miami played like shit most of the game and Bynum was beasting.

As I said earlier in this thread I think you are right after watching him play today. He had wide open 15 ft shots and was never really close to making any of them.

Because Chalmers has been killing it from 3 and Mike Miller/Shane Battier offer more in terms of defense, rebounding.

guise srsly. he's not ****ing around, and he's not entertained by the bullshit

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god I love the bulls

AMERICA WINS!!!

THE MIAMI TERRORISTS ARE DEFEATED!!!

MAMBA, WE'RE NOT WORTHY! :hail:

LeBron has more talent than anyone but doesn't thrive under pressure. I as a basketball fan want to see greatness. The right basketball play is bullshit. I see him constantly taking contested shots and make them. He should demand the ball with the game on the line. No blind hate, I just want to see it.

The Heat aren't dominant enough to blow out everyone in the playoffs. They are gonna have to win close games and you need Wade or James closing games. James is better than Wade too but he sure as hell doesn't act like it with the game on the line.

He's done well under pressure before. You don't win 60+ games and make the NBA Finals multiple times without having some kind of ability in that area. The problem is others have risen to the occasion on that stage, he hasn't.

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Enough said

You can credit the presence of Shaq and Gasol for those rings. Kobe would never have been able to do it alone. In fact, he asked out of the Lakers at one point because he couldn't.

That's cool. Compare a player who's played 15 seasons to a guy who's played 8. Awesome.

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In the words of the greatest basketball player ever


Michael Jordan: "There's no way, with hindsight, I would've ever called up Larry [Bird], called up Magic [Johnson] and said, 'Hey, look, let's get together and play on one team,'"

Jordan already had one of the top 50 players of all ****ing time on his team. :banghead:

So, did Jordan have to switch teams lmao?


I guess Wade and Bosh are garbage players now. Chopped liver.

Are you stupid? What point are you trying to make? What top-50 player of all time did Wade or Lebron have on their teams in 2009-2010?

You don't think Wade or LeBron is a top 50 player of our time?


I'm saying is that Jordan or Kobe never had to switch teams.

Would you have considered Pippen a Top 5 player during that time?

Plus Pippen was drafted by the Sonics and then traded on draft night to the Bulls so it is not like he was brought there with the knowledge of what he turn into.

Jordan already had will purdue guys

No, but if you already have 2 star players on the same team there wouldn't be the need to bring in a player of his caliber.

15 divided by 5 is 3.

That's one ring every 3 years. You can look at it that way.

You could also compare Kobe's hardware from his first 8 years to Lebron's first 8 (the score would be 3-0 if you didn't know).

MJ didn't win his first until his 8th year. I guess Kobe > MJ then, huh? :rolleyes:

Shaq had much more to do with those first 3 rings than Kobe. If Bron had an in-his-prime Shaq in Cleveland he'd probably have some jewelry.

No argument from me. Lebron wasn't surrounded with very good players and I don't know if he demanded that or not with the Cavs.

The Cavs should have made the trade to get Amare instead of Jamison and Lebron probably would have stayed

Well he didn't get it done last year with Wade and Bosh... so speculate all that you would like.

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The real greatest player of all time.

They should have done something more than a broken-down Jamison and Shaq.

Did Kobe win the first year he got Gasol?

agreed

In other news the Bulls-76ers game is looking like a very good game.

I like the 76ers teams as well, Doug Collins is a great coach

lol k

Pippen wouldn't have been a top 50 player without Jordan. There were many players playing at that time that were superior to Pippen. You can't say the same about Wade today.

Rose with last second shot at half. Amazing shot. Bulls still down 6

LeBron had a choice, just like Howard has a choice in Orlando. Because he refused to commit to his team, no free agent wanted to join LeBron, only to have LeBron leave in a season. And it was clear that for 2-3 years before LeBron left, the Cavs were purposely trying to clear up cap space so they can give LeBron a monster contract. So instead, they tried to appease LeBron by bringing in second-rate veterans. I don't blame LeBron for that. But to be clear, if LeBron committed to Cleveland well before he left, Cleveland wouldn't have made those kind of short-term band-aid moves like Jameson and Shaq.

And you're leaving out that the Cavs weren't an offensive powerhouse, but for many years under Mike Brown, they were an ELITE defensive team. Eric Snow, Larry Hughes, and LeBron... those guys were widely regarded as the best defenders in the game. Kobe, in fact, once said Snow was the toughest defender he ever faced at the time. That along with tough, big defenders in Varejao and Z... that defense was crazy good. It's not a sexy way to run a team. But it was a much better supporting cast than is credited.

You make a good point about making a commitment but I really don't blame Lebron or Dwight for not doing that. That is not their job that's the GM's job. As far as the cap goes I believe that had no effect since they could have payed Lebron the max contract since he would be considered underneath the Bird exception

JFC Rose is so good. hits another buzzer beater at the end of the 3rd quarter

No, I don't blame him for that--but it doesn't change that a non-commitment did limit the moves they could make his last 2 seasons with the club. But LeBron really, really dicked over Cleveland in a big way by waiting until the last day for a decision he made when the offseason started. For a team that bent over backwards for him, the least LeBron should have done was tell Cleveland immediately that offseason that he was going to Miami. That ****ed Cleveland over big time when they were hiring a coach and because they didn't want to spend LeBron money on a potential replacement free agent. Basically, they had millions upon millions of dollars of free money to spend when LeBron didn't commit, but because free agency was essentially over, the Cavs didn't have any players to spend on.

Yes he would of. He is one of the greatest defensive players of all time, and finished 3rd in MVP voting when Jordan retired the first time

They should have called that guy the ice man. The whole Big Shot Bob thing was kind of goofy.

I liked the whole Wade burka getup at the end.