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Couch-Potato 11-25-2023 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 17241006)
Which slot is Franklin supposed to be picked at, around?

1st Round

Playing a little game trying to narrow down our preferred RD 1 WR in the upcoming draft.

BigRedChief 11-25-2023 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 17241007)
1st Round

Playing a little game trying to narrow down our preferred RD 1 WR in the upcoming draft.

Thats a big difference in cost to us to move up between pick 32 and pick 15. I guess they will have a possible slot figured out as we get closer.

duncan_idaho 11-25-2023 11:23 AM

The whole “isn’t #1 on his team” thing is not a good factor to review when the other guys are good, too.

You could have made that complaint about Garret Wilson and Chris Olave. Or Justin Jefferson. Jameson Williams was the #3 guy behind those two at Ohio State.

Being #2 option behind a guy who clearly is getting drafted in the top 5 picks or top 10 picks.

So I don’t like it’s a knock on Egbuka at all that he isn’t the top target at Ohio State

To me, if you can get him at a discount because he’s playing with Harrison and has a bad QB, that’s a win.

Chris Meck 11-25-2023 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 17240975)
Troy Franklin

Profootbal Focus Draft Profile:
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MSN
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PFF's #14 WR in 2024 NFL Draft:
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DraftBuzz.com:
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My questions:

1. Is he a WR #1 in the NFL?

2. Is he really 6'3? 4.3?

3. Does he create separation? ...lots of 50:50 jump ball types this year.

1. Maybe.

2. Probably not.

3. Who knows?


WR's are kind of a crapshoot. It comes down to what's between his ears, he's got enough physical ability.

Couch-Potato 11-25-2023 12:43 PM

Xavier Legette, SC, 6-4, 225, 4.29
Keon Coleman, FSU, 6-4, 215, 4.45
Brian Thomas, LSU, 6-4, 205, 4.47
Adonai Mitchell, TX, 6-4, 195, 4.5

I like these guy's size

T-post Tom 11-25-2023 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by JPH83 (Post 17240835)
He has to get it right this year. If he drafts duds from this crop he's going to rightly get heat.

Very true. That said, I have more faith than George Michael & the Pope.:) LFG!

Coogs 11-25-2023 06:59 PM

Odunze and Franklin with the first two picks. Those two and Rice and we are good to transition to our next phase on offense. I'm tagging and trading Jones to get into position to make this happen.

Couch-Potato 11-25-2023 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 17241768)
Odunze and Franklin with the first two picks. Those two and Rice and we are good to transition to our next phase on offense. I'm tagging and trading Jones to get into position to make this happen.

I'm not sure I'm ready to give up Jones for a rookie WR.

Coogs 11-26-2023 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 17241824)
I'm not sure I'm ready to give up Jones for a rookie WR.

I get it. It's a tough decision. It's financial for me. We need the money to retain some other players, and the draft picks to rebuild the receiving core.

O.city 11-26-2023 09:49 AM

Other than sneed, let the rest walk. You can’t keep an elite defense together so don’t try. Keep the elite guys and build around them

Couch-Potato 11-26-2023 11:27 AM

I don't think we're as strapped as fans think...

We have $31m in Cap Space next offseason, and Chris Jones wants $30m per year, he's already owed $5m next season, so that leaves us with $6m. Let's say you need $5m for draft picks, so yeah, at first glance we're pretty strapped but seems obvious we let MVS go for +$12m, which gives us $13m.

Is $13m enough to also bring back Sneed? Maybe. If Sneed doesn't stay, that's enough to sign Gay, plus our other desirable FAs. We also have a few restructurable contracts with team friendly players like Thuney (Up to ~$9.5m), Kelce (Up to ~$8m), and Mahomes (Up to ~$6m). Two of which of been willing to restructure in the past.

Ultimately, it's possible for us to keep Chris Jones AND more.

or am I missing something?

Couch-Potato 11-26-2023 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 17242468)
I don't think we're as strapped as fans think...

We have $31m in Cap Space next offseason, and Chris Jones wants $30m per year, he's already owed $5m next season, so that leaves us with $6m. Let's say you need $5m for draft picks, so yeah, at first glance we're pretty strapped but seems obvious we let MVS go for +$12m, which gives us $13m.

Is $13m enough to also bring back Sneed? Maybe. If Sneed doesn't stay, that's enough to sign Gay, plus our other desirable FAs. We also have a few restructurable contracts with team friendly players like Thuney (Up to ~$9.5m), Kelce (Up to ~$8m), and Mahomes (Up to ~$6m). Two of which of been willing to restructure in the past.

Ultimately, it's possible for us to keep Chris Jones AND more.

or am I missing something?

If we're not going to spend our money on a top defensive tackle, top defensive back, or top ILB... than what do we want to spend that money on? Who else is coming up for a contract in the near future that's more important? If you want a vet FA WR, why not ask our offense to restructure and make it happen?

Stryker 11-26-2023 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 17241768)
Odunze and Franklin with the first two picks. Those two and Rice and we are good to transition to our next phase on offense. I'm tagging and trading Jones to get into position to make this happen.

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OKchiefs 11-27-2023 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 17242468)
I don't think we're as strapped as fans think...

We have $31m in Cap Space next offseason, and Chris Jones wants $30m per year, he's already owed $5m next season, so that leaves us with $6m. Let's say you need $5m for draft picks, so yeah, at first glance we're pretty strapped but seems obvious we let MVS go for +$12m, which gives us $13m.

Is $13m enough to also bring back Sneed? Maybe. If Sneed doesn't stay, that's enough to sign Gay, plus our other desirable FAs. We also have a few restructurable contracts with team friendly players like Thuney (Up to ~$9.5m), Kelce (Up to ~$8m), and Mahomes (Up to ~$6m). Two of which of been willing to restructure in the past.

Ultimately, it's possible for us to keep Chris Jones AND more.

or am I missing something?

OTC shows KC at $51.6 million next year, and that’s before we let go of MVS and his $12 million in savings.

O.city 11-27-2023 08:11 AM

You can also sign Justin Reid to an extension and get his # down.


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