**** the Ravens. I hate this team.

Sometimes hard work doesn't get you shit in the NFL.

See: Tim Tebow

I don't mean the Titans game -- he sucked in that. I mean the Pro Bowl throwing contest -- that was an embarrassment. I wouldn't be surprised if next year Jackson has more than a few games like the SD playoff game. I really don't think his accuracy has improved since then -- it was scheme. Overall, I'm sure he'll have some big games, but I just don't see that offense with him winning a title.

The biggest issue I had with his performance was not as much how poorly he threw but more of his nonchalant demeanor about it. Perhaps he thinks it’s no big deal, who knows. But if he can’t develop as a better passer then he will be out of the league, or a backup “gimmick” QB in about 4-5 years tops.

The Chiefs squad looked sloppy when they went down 24-0 to the Texans and we saw what the best QB in the league did about it. He led the team to 28 points in the 2nd quarter in comparison to Jackson who could only generate 12 points in spite of all his “yards”.

My take on this discussion is that as an NFL fan I am thankful for differing styles of play. I can appreciate Lamar being excellent in their offense. Styles of plays make match ups. I love watching a team like the Titans have to defend a team like the Ravens and then turn around and defend the Chiefs. They have a good defense but one of those two styles is going to find your weaknesses.

I agree that Lamar's style is more likely to lead to a shorter career, but we will see. Mahomes has had more injuries to this point and Luck (another pocket passer) is already out of the league.

I am beyond geeked out having having Mahomes on the Chiefs, but let's enjoy the ride for as long as it lasts. I have no interest in taking today for granted.

It's a silly goofball event, so I'm not surprised he was nonchalant about it.

EDIT: Did you mean the playoff game? I thought you meant the silly skills challenge at Pro Bowl.

Do you think Mahomes would have mailed it in like Jackson did?

No. Mahomes would have put on a show with the football and beat everyone handily, then he would have kicked their asses in ping pong, hitting a baseball, three-point shooting, golf, monopoly and horseshoes.

That winning self-drive to be the best at all times is the main difference between the two.

Enjoy your next 20 years of irrelevancy...

Who knows. Mahomes chose not to participate in the 2019 version of it. One thing I noticed in the 2019 video. The announcers were giving Russell Wilson a hard time because apparently he was terrible in the 2018 edition of this goofball event. I guess the bottom line here is if Russell can struggle really bad with it, then we should probably give Lamar a pass. :thumb:

Is it? I see it kind of like the 08 Dolphins and the wildcat offense. Nobody knew how to stop it all season, because it was so different than what anyone had been doing. It flummoxed defenses, and averaged 7yds/play. The next season, defenses had figured it out in the offseason, and it was no longer effective.

We'll see if that turns out to be the case here, but I think it will be - I don't think they'll be a top-tier offense again.

Vegas disagrees. I'm certainly not rooting for them, but definitely respect the zone read offense as legitimate, especially with a guy like Lamar Jackson running it. They'll be really good again next year.

Who cares about Vegas? Of the preseason super bowl odds, 5 of the top 10 didn't even make the playoffs. The Niners has the 18th best odds.

Well then go make your money next year betting against the Ravens. They'll be favored early, often, and by a lot. I hope you win.

Talking heads like Wiley want to give Lamar Jackson a pass on his poor playoff performances. I mentioned earlier, or in another thread, that Wiley and Deion Sanders both seem to go out of their way to make excuses for Jackson, and I think it's because of his skin color. Mahomes isn't "black" enough for them, so they support Jackson at all costs.

Lamar Jackson and Patrick Mahomes have each played in 2 postseasons. Mahomes is 3-1 and Jackson is 0-2. And Jackson had the more complete team last year, but couldn't beat the Chargers at home. This year he couldn't beat the Titans at home. His poor play contributed greatly to both losses.

I personally think that Jackson can become a better passer, with better coaching, and that he can be a solid starting QB in this league. I don't feel the need to tear him down, and make disparaging comments about his talent, because his performances in the playoffs say it all.

I thank God, I thank the heavens and stars, and I thank fate and destiny, for delivering Chiefs Kingdom the QB we have deserved for so long. We couldn't have wished for a more perfect QB, or a better person, to be the face of our beloved Chiefs, and to lead this team to a Super Bowl.

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