Why does this number keep changing? I'm hearing 8.9 saved, now you've whittled us down to 2.6. WTF gives?

And how much extra would we save by waiting another year compared to releasing him June 1st 2019?

There are people here who want Berry to have surgery even if surgery is unnecessary?

Bunch of Mengeles 'round here. Or Tara Reids, maybe.

Dang.

FAX

Yeah, can someone set the record straight?

The way Veach talks about Houston makes me feel better about Berry

He said the plan was still for Houston to be on the team despite the fact that he’s good as gone.

Talking about Berry and Houston like they will be back means nothing.

How is he greedy? Because he is accepting the money his empoyer agreed to pay him? What do you want him to do give the Chiefs back all the money he has made since he has been hurt? Would you do that?

I dont know what you guys were expecting out of him in AFCC game. I wasnt expecting much. I dont fault him for not having a good game against Gronk. He was rusty and it isn't like Gronk is some bum. Lets not forget what Berry did to Gronk when he was healthy the year prior.

It is what it is. You guys act like Berry is a piece of shit because he got hurt and makes a lot of money. Play Madden and turn injuries off if you want to live in fantasy land.

According to overthecap.com, here it is:

PRE-JUNE 1, 2019:

Dead money: $14,955,000
Cap Savings: $1,550,000

POST JUNE 1, 2019:

Dead money 2019: $6,950,000
Cap Savings 2019: $9,550,000
Dead money 2020: $4,000,000
Cap Savings 2020: $12,000,000
Dead money 2021: $4,000,000
Cap Savings 2021: $12,000,000

POST JUNE 1, 2020

Dead money 2020: $4,000,000
Cap Savings 2020: $9,500,000
Dead money 2021: $4,000,000
Cap Savings 2021: $12,000,000
Dead money 2022: 0,000,000
Cap Savings 2022: $14,000,000

Basically, cutting him post June 1 this year has only slightly more dead money, which is spread over two additional years. $4M in dead money in 2020 and 2021.

If you play him this year, his dead cap is $8M, which a post-june 1 designation next year would spread over three years, so you'd have smaller cap hits, but we are talking the difference between $2M and $4M, and you carry it a year longer.

There is basically no difference in terms of roster flexibility.

I think they'll keep Berry.

I do too. I don't expect him to play well (or at all really) but he's going to be on the roster.

I just don't see how you can go with that much dead money. Maybe they will, but man, that's a big pill to swallow.

I also think if they keep him he'll play a lot. They can't go thru this again next season.

If they keep him, he's playing a lot.

And if his body just can't handle it?

Don't you think they're doing their due diligence on it though? I mean if he's going to not have surgery and their putting all this out, they keep him and he does 2018 all over again, they're gonna look like dumb jackasses.

They may make a bad decision but they aren't stupid.

They thought he was going to play last year. For MONTHS, they thought he was going to play.

This is the option I am most in line with. I have NO problem keeping him and watching him kick ass all year. If that's the case, then all of this animosity is going to be a distant memory.

Exactly.

You think they're going to allow that to play out again? They'll either cut him or he'll play.

There is zero chance last year happens again. .