One year.

That's not a lock vs. risk argument to me...

Yeah, and Derek Anderson had one good year too.

Also, I wouldn't be surprised to see either bust too, but that's not the point.

My point is that it is ridiculous to view Cassel as some sort of great QB due to one season of production after being virtually anonymous for so many years, and that's what Brandt seemed to imply with his quote.

Look, I want us to draft a quarterback as much as anyone on this board (hoping for a dirty sanchez, but stafford looks good as well) but to say that a full year of experience in arguably the toughest division in the NFL means nothing is just as myopic as the arguments I keep seeing on here against drafting a rookie qb. The fact of the matter is that Cassel succeeded against NFL teams and improved as the season progressed. JFC. With the way the two sides are entrenched on this debate, you'd think it was Go-Bots vs. Voltron or something.

I wouldn't be surprised to see us draft a QB as well as hire one in FA to compete for the starting spot. I will, however, rest easier knowing that the cupboard won't be bare at the position like it was in the past (read -King Carl years) regardless of which route we take. You can't win without a decent QB in the NFL, and our record last year proved that our roster needed a serious upgrade at the position.

Yup. And Kirwan and Brandt are two of the best draft gurus in the business.

But you'll never convince those set in their ways that the absolutely, positively, 100% sure path to success is to take a QB in the top 5, even if he doesn't earn a top 5 rating.

This is nothing more than an obvious rumor that has no legs. It's like all the rumors about Dayton Moore making deals with the Braves.

I just think it is great how you keep putting words into people's mouths.

ROFL

Are you talking about the Pat Kirwan who had Brian Brohm and Chad Henne ranked ahead of Joe Flacco?

We all want that, but I don't think there is one available this year.

Bingo.

Bret Favre was a castoff too. I guess the Packers are sorry they signed him...

There is no Peyton Manning in this years draft, and probably not a Ben Roethlisberger either. If there was a Peyton Manning I would be all for using our #3 for him.

Holy crap, really?

Cassel is an extremely mediocre QB with fantastic weapons. His arm is average at best and he's incredibly inaccurate. Even more disconcerting is that his mechanics aren't that bad, so I'm not even sure he could be coached up much more.

Schaub is an elite passer. He's accurate, he has a plus arm, he throws a great ball on both long and intermediate routes. As far as a pure thrower goes, he's easily in the top 10 in the league, I'd listen to arguments that he's close to the top 5. Yes, he's a statue and he's immobile, but he's a great pure passer.

Cassel isn't anywhere near him, IMO.

They traded their 1st round pick for him pal that's not "finding" him...

And I loved Roethlisberger out of college and I'll tell you what...I think these 2 guys are as good a prospects as Eli Manning, Rivers and Roethlisberger were...These guys would be well regarded any year, we really need to stop using that argument it was used last year too because people didn't want a QB.

There is nothing to not like about Mark Sanchez.

Bingo x2.

I will be so glad when the draft passes and this debate is over.Well at least for the most part.

NFL player personnel men throughout the league disagree vehemently with this.

But if Mecca says so...