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BryanBusby 09-13-2019 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by T-post Tom (Post 14444929)
Has nothing to do with his ability to help the Chiefs.
It actually does. What's he going to do if he doesn't like what Spagnuolo asks from him?

I'm not all in on as the Miami Dolphins turns, but I've seen reports he dog legged the end of the Gase era too. Not gonna fault him if he does what they say and looks bad, but I don't want anymore Bob Sutton shit of guys not even trying. We just got done getting rid of that shit.

BossChief 09-13-2019 02:44 PM
Someone give me solid reasoning as to why trading our first for him is in any way a bad idea.

staylor26 09-13-2019 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 14445392)
Someone give me solid reasoning as to why trading our first for him is in any way a bad idea.
If they feel that he (or Fuller) can’t play outside, which is what we really need.

ChiefoftheKeyboard 09-13-2019 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 14445386)
It actually does. What's he going to do if he doesn't like what Spagnuolo asks from him?

I'm not all in on as the Miami Dolphins turns, but I've seen reports he dog legged the end of the Gase era too. Not gonna fault him if he does what they say and looks bad, but I don't want anymore Bob Sutton shit of guys not even trying. We just got done getting rid of that shit.
It’s not just him though, no dolphins player is bought in. It’s obvious they’re trying to tank. Do you really not think the chiefs locker room is strong enough to make a player want to give his all? The dolphins have no specific plan for him and pretty much told him that. There’s a difference in having a versatile player with a plan in place, and having a player try to learn 6 positions and plug him wherever someone gets injured and change the plan each week.

thabear04 09-13-2019 02:51 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Dolphins are open to trading safety Minkah Fitzpatrick, the 11th overall pick in 2018. Cowboys VP Stephen Jones was just asked on <a href="https://twitter.com/1053thefan?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@1053thefan</a> if they have had any communication with the Dolphins in the last 24 hours. Jones said “yeah,” but he wouldn’t comment on specifics</p>&mdash; Jon Machota (@jonmachota) <a href="https://twitter.com/jonmachota/status/1172593887329837058?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 13, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Jerok 09-13-2019 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by thabear04 (Post 14445403)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Dolphins are open to trading safety Minkah Fitzpatrick, the 11th overall pick in 2018. Cowboys VP Stephen Jones was just asked on <a href="https://twitter.com/1053thefan?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@1053thefan</a> if they have had any communication with the Dolphins in the last 24 hours. Jones said “yeah,” but he wouldn’t comment on specifics</p>&mdash; Jon Machota (@jonmachota) <a href="https://twitter.com/jonmachota/status/1172593887329837058?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 13, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
I'm sure most of the league has asked about the price. A GM wouldn't be doing his job if he didn't. So the Jets and Texans probably didn't ask.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 09-13-2019 03:01 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Let me say this about the Minkah Fitzpatrick drama. This all centers on his use, his role, how he’s utilized in this defense. He clearly doesn’t want to cover TEs, and I agree, that role doesn’t fit him. Put him on the boundary or put him and nickel CB and see how things pan out.</p>&mdash; Omar Kelly (@OmarKelly) <a href="https://twitter.com/OmarKelly/status/1172375930423009280?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 13, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Dunerdr 09-13-2019 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Jerok (Post 14445408)
I'm sure most of the league has asked about the price. A GM wouldn't be doing his job if he didn't. So the Jets and Texans probably didn't ask.
The internets are on fire basically every team should be interested.

Mecca 09-13-2019 03:15 PM
So real question, do you think that Minkah is telling Tua how horrid is it in Miami and how much he shouldn't wanna go there?

Dunerdr 09-13-2019 03:24 PM
I know a few here are trying to peg this guy as a quitter, or soft or something but Saban ****ing loves him and to me that speaks volumes.

http://dailydolphin.blog.palmbeachpo...h-fitzpatrick/

arrowheadnation 09-13-2019 03:35 PM
I don’t know what I’d do if we got both PP and Minkah.

DJ's left nut 09-13-2019 03:43 PM
I'll just re-post what I said a month or so ago; nothing's changed.

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14406276)
I'd be on board with Fitzpatrick but I don't know exactly what he is just yet.

He might be a better FS than CB. Then again, he might be a better slot CB than a boundary CB (he played well as a slot CB last year). He seems to have the versatility that Veach/Spags both really like.

As the 11th overall pick, he'll have a more reasonable 5th year option figure to go with 3 more years on his current deal. Additionally, the Dolphins would end up absorbing the bulk of what he's owed into their cap via the accelerated signing bonus.

I mean he'd be a real nice target but he'll be pricey. I'm not even sure a 2nd would get it done. Then again, our later 2nd is what transfers so with Jimmy Grapes looking like the overrated slag everyone should've known he was, maybe our 2nd has more value.

Would I give a 2nd for Fitzpatrick? Yeah, I think I'd do that. Nice young CB with 3 years of cost control (at a low price) who can move around quite a bit as needed and who comes with a viable 5th year option pricetag as well. Would I give the 1st that the Dolphins would probably ask for? Eh...probably not.

He could potentially be a really nice addition but when all is said and done there, more will be said than done. Teams don't tend to move 1st round picks the year after very successful rookie seasons.

Jerok 09-13-2019 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by arrowheadnation (Post 14445470)
I don’t know what I’d do if we got both PP and Minkah.
Celebrate a Superbowl

BossChief 09-13-2019 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14445480)
I'll just re-post what I said a month or so ago; nothing's changed.
Gimme your argument against sending Miami a first for the kid.

To me, that deal would be made faster than I can blink.

BossChief 09-13-2019 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by arrowheadnation (Post 14445470)
I don’t know what I’d do if we got both PP and Minkah.
If we trade for MF, a trade for PP is most likely completely off the table unless the price tag goes down to a 3rd.


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