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DaFace 03-21-2019 08:51 AM

Welp, this is what happens when I decide to include Boeing in the fun. Sounds like it's SpaceX's race to lose.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-s...-idUSKCN1R12QR

Boeing delays by months test flights for U.S. human space program: sources


SEATTLE (Reuters) - Boeing Co has delayed by at least three months its first uncrewed flight to the International Space Station under NASA’s human spaceflight program, and pushed its crewed flight until November, industry sources said on Wednesday.

(more at the link)

DaFace 03-31-2019 09:02 PM

As always, it's possible it will slip, but here's your one-week warning for the next FALCON HEAVY launch!

O.city 03-31-2019 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 14170178)
Well, depends on how old you are. :)

But yeah, I think we get there in the 2030s. In theory SpaceX wants to get there sooner than that, but NASA seems to have their sights on the moon, so it'll be more of a stretch for SpaceX to do it alone. Here's the general timeline as I see it:

2020-2025 - Rapid expansion of launch vehicle capabilities (New Glenn, Starship, and maybe SLS)
2025-2030 - Manned missions to the moon to start building a base and to test out technology that would allow for long-term habitats. Also, unmanned missions to Mars that take far bigger payloads than we've ever sent there before.
2030-2035 - Manned missions to Mars, but we don't stay longer than we have to. (Granted, we might have to stay quite a while since you have to wait for the right launch window.)
2035+ - Long-term missions to Mars.

Of course, that's all just guessing. We could get there earlier or much later. Or, frankly, it's possible that we never really figure out how to live on Mars long-term. We'll see.

Thanks for the update. It’s interesting stuff

Is the thought that we could actually colonize Mars?

DaFace 03-31-2019 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14188994)
Thanks for the update. It’s interesting stuff

Is the thought that we could actually colonize Mars?

Theoretically, yes. But I'd be pretty surprised if anyone alive today ever sees more than a handful of people there at a time. It's...not exactly a hospitable place.

Rain Man 03-31-2019 10:14 PM

I read once that it's possible to colonize Venus, and Venus could be a more hospitable place in the long run.

The problem with Venus is that it has a massive amount of carbon dioxide, which produces all sorts of problems. But there are certain types of bacteria that could survive there and that eat carbon dioxide. So you fire a rocket there that's full of those bacteria, wait a hundred years or some such time until they clean the place up, and then introduce oxygen and water. Voila - you have created an inhabitable new world.

Donger 04-01-2019 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 14188988)
As always, it's possible it will slip, but here's your one-week warning for the next FALCON HEAVY launch!

I, I, I, I is so excited! So excited!

O.city 04-01-2019 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 14189018)
Theoretically, yes. But I'd be pretty surprised if anyone alive today ever sees more than a handful of people there at a time. It's...not exactly a hospitable place.

Yeah, you get into terraforming and we just aren't anywhere close to that as a civilization yet.

Fun to think about though.

Donger 04-01-2019 10:09 AM

BREVARD COUNTY, Fla. —

SpaceX will attempt its second launch of the powerful, three-booster Falcon Heavy rocket this weekend.

The launch window opens at 6:36 p.m. Sunday.

DaFace 04-04-2019 08:01 AM

It's not much, but Starhopper has officially been lit.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">RAPTOR STATIC FIRE ON STARHOPPER! <a href="https://twitter.com/LabPadre?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@LabPadre</a> <a href="https://t.co/adF07iL1Hg">pic.twitter.com/adF07iL1Hg</a></p>&mdash; Chris B - NSF (@NASASpaceflight) <a href="https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/1113606734818545664?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 4, 2019</a></blockquote>
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And Falcon Heavy (sans fairing) is on the pad for a static fire today!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Launch Complex 39A: The first ever Block 5 <a href="https://twitter.com/SpaceX?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@SpaceX</a> Falcon Heavy stands vertical in the morning light in preparation for tonight&#39;s static fire test. <a href="https://t.co/HvcBlpqury">pic.twitter.com/HvcBlpqury</a></p>&mdash; Nathan Barker (@NASA_Nerd) <a href="https://twitter.com/NASA_Nerd/status/1113783578821844992?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 4, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Donger 04-05-2019 07:29 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">And we have CONFIRMATION that <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/FalconHeavy?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#FalconHeavy</a>&#39;s static fire has slipped to tomorrow, Friday, 5 April. Test window is 10:00-19:00 EDT (1400-2300 UTC). Launch date is slipping, too. Will not be Sunday. SpaceX will confirm a new launch date once Static Fire is complete. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Arabsat6A?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Arabsat6A</a> <a href="https://t.co/waAtUQFSQt">pic.twitter.com/waAtUQFSQt</a></p>&mdash; Chris G - NSF (@ChrisG_NSF) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChrisG_NSF/status/1113927904168169473?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 4, 2019</a></blockquote>
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DaFace 04-05-2019 01:33 PM

https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/11...888100352?s=09

Static fire of Falcon Heavy complete—targeting April 9 launch of Arabsat-6A from Launch Complex 39A in Florida

unlurking 04-05-2019 04:41 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Max thrust of 2550 tons will be almost 10% higher than Falcon Heavy demo mission last year</p>&mdash; Elon Musk (@elonmusk) <a href="https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1114215249517981702?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 5, 2019</a></blockquote>
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DaFace 04-05-2019 10:57 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Starhopper just lifted off &amp; hit tether limits! <a href="https://t.co/eByJsq2jiw">pic.twitter.com/eByJsq2jiw</a></p>&mdash; Elon Musk (@elonmusk) <a href="https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1114390314565787648?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 6, 2019</a></blockquote>
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unlurking 04-06-2019 05:34 AM

That thing got up quick!

BigRedChief 04-06-2019 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 14189018)
Theoretically, yes. But I'd be pretty surprised if anyone alive today ever sees more than a handful of people there at a time. It's...not exactly a hospitable place.

Water is the biggest issue to overcome for space travel.


If Mars doesn't have ice below the surface, the whole idea is dead in the water. Bringing water with us to a "colony" is just not sustainable.


They can make water out of thin air now. Too expensive on earth to be practical. Don't know if its even possible on Mars. The Israelis have been using desalinization to provide water since the 80's. But, that option, as far as I know is not available anywhere near us.


My son did some research in college that maybe as we travel along we could find trapped ice in large meteorites as a solution to providing water for space travel.


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