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staylor26 02-21-2024 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17412147)
I'd have a similar list but broken up a bit (which means I probably won't get most of them)

2nd:

Walker
McMillan
Mitchell
Worthy
Legette
Wilson
Burton (would need the interviews to go well)

3rd:

McConkey
Polk
Pearsall
Rice
Thrash (curious to see how he times; he looks faster than the listed times for him)

Does that mean I wouldn't end up getting any of those guys I list as 3rd round guys? Yeah - probably. But I wouldn't be happy to see any of them taken in the 2nd so I'd just shrug and move along. Any one of them COULD be guys I move up into that 2nd round status (probably not Thrash), but I don't think it's terribly likely.

I expect most in that first group to be gone, and I'd gladly take Polk or Pearsall at 64, but McConkey and Rice are an example of guys being available that would probably lead me to punt on WR in the 2nd.

DJ's left nut 02-21-2024 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17412168)
I expect most in that first group to be gone, and I'd gladly take Polk or Pearsall at 64, but McConkey and Rice are an example of guys being available that would probably lead me to punt on WR in the 2nd.

Rice, oddly enough, is someone I think I'd like more if he WASN'T named Rice. I just push-back hard enough against the "Oh it's Jerry's kid" gimmick that I can't help but wonder if I'm pushing TOO hard.

Because there's a lot to like there. He might be pretty damn good; better than my cynical ass is giving him credit for.

staylor26 02-21-2024 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17412173)
Rice, oddly enough, is someone I think I'd like more if he WASN'T named Rice. I just push-back hard enough against the "Oh it's Jerry's kid" gimmick that I can't help but wonder if I'm pushing TOO hard.

Because there's a lot to like there. He might be pretty damn good; better than my cynical ass is giving him credit for.

He's a tough evaluation for me. If he can have a great combine, he'll get a boost.

kccrow 02-21-2024 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 17411904)
Would you prefer Newton to Sweat if we kept Jones?

Newton all day.

O.city 02-21-2024 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17412144)
Eh, I think Franklin (and Thomas Jr.) are in a different tier than Worthy.

Only way I'm passing up Franklin or Thomas Jr. is if somebody like Newton or Mims falls into our lap.

I'm just lower on Franklin than the consensus here. Thomas JR for sure, take him.

I think Franklin is probably better than Worthy, for sure though.

Mecca 02-21-2024 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17412314)
I'm just lower on Franklin than the consensus here. Thomas JR for sure, take him.

I think Franklin is probably better than Worthy, for sure though.

Why don't you like Franklin, curious.

O.city 02-21-2024 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17412323)
Why don't you like Franklin, curious.

His low contested catch rate scares me for a big guy like that who's probably not gonna be a big separator.

O.city 02-21-2024 12:19 PM

I'm probably way to low on the guy.

staylor26 02-21-2024 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17412332)
His low contested catch rate scares me for a big guy like that who's probably not gonna be a big separator.

I don't know that I'd call him a "big" separator, although he is in terms of the vertical stuff, but he's not Adonai Mitchell either. He has little issue getting separation, and his drop rate or whatever is pretty similar to Rice.

raybec 4 02-21-2024 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17412336)
I'm probably way to low on the guy.

I feel like everyone hollering for Franklin were in the same boat with Hyatt last year. They see it as a need and plug him in because he might be the best WR available in that spot. There are a lot of directions they might go that we won't see coming.

staylor26 02-21-2024 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 17412352)
I feel like everyone hollering for Franklin were in the same boat with Hyatt last year. They see it as a need and plug him in because he might be the best WR available in that spot. There are a lot of directions they might go that we won't see coming.

Nah man, Franklin is much more polished, and just a better overall prospect.

Chris Meck 02-21-2024 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17412173)
Rice, oddly enough, is someone I think I'd like more if he WASN'T named Rice. I just push-back hard enough against the "Oh it's Jerry's kid" gimmick that I can't help but wonder if I'm pushing TOO hard.

Because there's a lot to like there. He might be pretty damn good; better than my cynical ass is giving him credit for.

If his dad was like... Randy Moss, I would, too. The son of a freak athlete.

The thing is, his old man was the greatest technician to ever play the position. Jr. Actually looks to be a better athlete than his dad was. And nobody worked harder than Jerry Rice. If ANY of that rubbed off...

raybec 4 02-21-2024 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17412356)
Nah man, Franklin is much more polished, and just a better overall prospect.

I'm not comparing the two players, just the situation. We needed a WR in 23 and we went with a DE in the 1st with Hyatt still on the board. A lot of folks projected Hyatt to the Chiefs early in the draft season. Franklin is the choice this year.

staylor26 02-21-2024 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 17412363)
I'm not comparing the two players, just the situation. We needed a WR in 23 and we went with a DE in the 1st with Hyatt still on the board. A lot of folks projected Hyatt to the Chiefs early in the draft season. Franklin is the choice this year.

I don't think Franklin is 100% BPA if he's available, but chances are if he's there, it's just a perfect fit in terms of need and skill set.

He's just a better prospect than Hyatt. That's the point I'm trying to make, which is why I think it's a different situation too.

raybec 4 02-21-2024 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17412366)
I don't think Franklin is 100% BPA if he's available, but chances are if he's there, it's just a perfect fit in terms of need and skill set.

He's just a better prospect than Hyatt. That's the point I'm trying to make, which is why I think it's a different situation too.

I get that. There's no way Franklin makes it to the 3rd like Hyatt did IMO.


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