What would it take to get Mason Miller? Also, the Ferminator needs to be playing every day. Have him and Salvy switch every so often with DH and Catching

Re:Mason Miller - Probably quite a bit. He's 25, Was rated as their #2 prospect headed into the season, has 5 years of control beyond this season, has been lights out coming out of the bullpen, and they see him as a starter long term.

That is what i would call "a pipe dream".

Obviously, the Royals will continue to give these vets they signed some leash - but what do you think ends up happening with the following players:
Adam Frazier
Garrett Hampson
Hunter Renfroe
Michael Wacha

I guess I see Frazier as a placeholder on the 25 man, which could be replaced by any bat they feel like they would want to bring in given Hampsons defensive versatility.

I also wonder if the Royals don't bring back Bubic or Lynch and move Wacha to the pen?

Finally, Hunter Renfroe is a guy you could straight DFA if you found a strong defensive OF bat.

Frazier and Hampson are what they are and will be those guys (depth, role players, day off givers, etc) for the rest of the season. I guess if some blockbuster gets pulled off, Frazier could be DFA. Hampson is the type of guy you want around due to, as you mentioned, his versatility. Wacha has been much better lately and won't be moved anywhere anytime soon. Renfroe is pretty worthless and unless he hits a major resurgence, looks like a dude who is washed.

does anyone know what the deal is with lyles?

No, and that's probably a good thing. It's between him and the club, and it's likely pretty serious. Remember when Ben Zobrist took his extended leave?

This is how the White Sox lost tonight.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Not a great way to end a ballgame <a href="https://t.co/qZlIkutWa2">pic.twitter.com/qZlIkutWa2</a></p>&mdash; Travis Sawchik (@Travis_Sawchik) <a href="https://twitter.com/Travis_Sawchik/status/1793840829091782664?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 24, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

As much as I'd simply like to laugh at the White Sox, that is dreadful on the part of the umpires.

Human umpires seem to be more committed than anybody else to usher in the era of robot umpires, as soon as possible. WTF?!

Not sure if everyone is an ESPN+ subscriber…

https://www.espn.com/mlb/insider/sto...rs-cubs-padres

Sheesh…. Article lists five teams…. Cleveland, KC, Milwaukee, Cubbies and San Diego…. Everyone is a contender except for KC….

Guess we’ll just have to keep winning and prove everyone wrong!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">DJ Diesel is coming to The K!<br><br>Get your tickets now to join us for an epic show on August 9th!</p>&mdash; Kansas City Royals (@Royals) <a href="https://twitter.com/Royals/status/1793688345215926538?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 23, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Academy Sports currently selling authentic Nike Royals City Connect jerseys for Perez, Witt, and Bo Jackson for $60.

https://www.academy.com/search?searchTerm=royals

Carlos Hernandez is back. Tyler Duffey got DFA

I feel like that's welcome news

If he pitches like he did in the first half of last season, its a major shot in the arm for the bullpen.

And that's fair. Highly doubt anyone saw this coming, so if there is still some lingering doubts it is to be expected. They can prove a lot over the next month or so.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Best chances to represent the American League in the World Series, according to <a href="https://twitter.com/baseball_ref?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@baseball_ref</a>:<br><br>1. Orioles 22.7%<br>2. Yankees 21.6%<br>3. <a href="https://twitter.com/Royals?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Royals</a> 14.9%<br>4. Guardians 12.4%<br>5. Mariners 10.1%</p>&mdash; Nick Kappel (@NickKappel) <a href="https://twitter.com/NickKappel/status/1794403189112123509?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 25, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Yeah, that was a balk man.

Bummer.

Take him deep, Salvy.

I was at the Omaha Stormchasers vs Columbus Clippers game tonight with my two cats. Take Meowt to The Ballgame promo. Yes you heard that right. Anyway...I saw Omaha hit 3 solo homers in a row. Yes consecutively. Nola, then Rave, then Waters hit homers. Got me wondering how often that even happens in a 162 game season in MLB.

I also expected Loftin or Waters or Pratto to be yanked from the lineup after Isbel took one to the dome today but they all played the whole time as far as I could tell.

Haha. I’ve actually been to a Take Meowt to The Ballgame night in Omaha so I know that’s a real thing. Sounds like you got a fun one to see. Back to back to back homers in the MLB is not common but it’s not as rare as one might think. I’d guess it happens a few times a season. Back to back to back to back homers has only happened 11 times in history (as far as I can tell). Not sure if any team has done more consecutive than four.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We have made the following roster moves: <a href="https://t.co/ZUFLsdkoBQ">pic.twitter.com/ZUFLsdkoBQ</a></p>&mdash; Kansas City Royals (@Royals) <a href="https://twitter.com/Royals/status/1794750606839554521?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 26, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Can someone....explain Seth Lugo to me? The **** did this come from? One of the most bizarre things I've seen in years.

I played poker with one of Seth Lugos childhood friends the other day and even they didnt know he was good.

Man that's disappointing...isn't that the same thing that kept in out to start the year?

Yep, lower back strain was what they called it. Kept him out until April 19.

Damn. Massey has been huge this year.

You guys got a very good looking team. 👍

Not good.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ronald Acuña Jr. has left today’s game after a non-contact injury on the basepaths<br><br>(via <a href="https://twitter.com/BravesOnBally?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BravesOnBally</a>)<br> <a href="https://t.co/2MEPS7U9OR">pic.twitter.com/2MEPS7U9OR</a></p>&mdash; FOX Sports: MLB (@MLBONFOX) <a href="https://twitter.com/MLBONFOX/status/1794788148620509526?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 26, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Losing Massey hurts. He’s been huge with some big time timely homers. And back problems are always so tricky.

It’s still very early, but I really hope the front office is doing their due diligence to add a real arm to the bullpen. We must have someone(s) out there that can strike people out and someone we can count on. Won’t be cheap, but this pen is softer than baby poop. Don’t waste this amazing start. We need reinforcements if we’re gonna truly contend.

Onward and upward.

I had to be certain this was indeed a thing.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-theme="dark"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We saw the most cats ever at Werner Park last night! <br><br>Thank you to everyone who joined us for Take Meowt to the Ballgame! <a href="https://t.co/v86ykXIFSR">pic.twitter.com/v86ykXIFSR</a></p>&mdash; Omaha Storm Chasers (@OMAStormChasers) <a href="https://twitter.com/OMAStormChasers/status/1794739517313958049?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 26, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

ROFL

I think they said they had a total of 45 cats in attendance. Disappointed not a one ran onto the field

That’s wild. When we went (2021) we didn’t see a single cat (we just happened to be in Omaha that night so we didn’t purposely go for cat night). But it was Labor Day weekend. Maybe they figured earlier in the year is better for cats somehow?

I think most everyone who brought cats was in the OF on the grassy knoll so if you had infield seats you probably wouldn't be see any.

Mother****ing Cleveland!!!!

Khaaaaaaaannnnnnn!!!!!!!

The reality is (most likely) we are gonna have to destroy them head to head (which maybe is the way it should be). I mean you’d be hard pressed to find an easier 3 week stretch in modern history than what the Guardians are up “against” lately and upcoming.

They just announced it was a complete ACL tear, Acuna is out for the year.

Wow, just wow. Sucks for he/him/them.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Salvador Perez has 17 fWAR, 34.7 bWAR, 255 HR, and fewer DRS in his entire career than Cal Raleigh has this season in 350 Innings<br><br>We really don’t have to do this <a href="https://t.co/hdDm8RIExX">https://t.co/hdDm8RIExX</a></p>&mdash; Joe Orrico (@JoeOrrico99) <a href="https://twitter.com/JoeOrrico99/status/1794490458170855602?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 25, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I hate these douchebag stats nerds so much.

The royals season appears that it will be defined by how they play the guardians given that no one else in the league seems willing to help us out. So the month of June and nine days of August 26 to September 4 seem critical.

Catcher is the hardest position to statisicially quantify the value of a player's contributions.

The stat nerds say the same thing about Yadier Molina even though there's mountains of praise around baseball for his defensive impact. Anybody that followed baseball knows the Cardinals pitching staff had an obvious drop off in performance when prime years Molina was injured.

Even if you read the works of Bill James or listen to Brian Kenny, they make it clear that WAR isn't be all, end all of evaluation. You have to consider all information at hand. Simplifying it to WAR is lazy and not doing the homework.

Unfortunately, it looks like Acuna is a modern day Eric Davis.

Davis had 27 HR/80 SB in 1986, but had his Hall of Fame track derailed by injuries.

It looks like Bill James took issue with that opinion. LOL

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">If by &quot;this&quot;, you mean &quot;pay any attention to DRS&quot;.</p>&mdash; Bill James Online (@billjamesonline) <a href="https://twitter.com/billjamesonline/status/1794796319690912184?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 26, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Hes probably a framing nerd fan. Framing is so ****ing stupid. Egregious framers should even be suspended or fined. I liken it to flopping in bball.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="es" dir="ltr">Ángel Hernández to retire: Much-maligned MLB umpire calling it quits <a href="https://t.co/2m9QJNlkcl">https://t.co/2m9QJNlkcl</a></p>&mdash; Bob Nightengale (@BNightengale) <a href="https://twitter.com/BNightengale/status/1795261829419348209?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 28, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Don’t let the door hit ya Angel!!! On second thought, break your leg!!!

You’re next CB Bucknor…

Fangraphs also incorporated its own grading of framing and it absolutely hammered Perez's defensive value. I think their model overrates framing value, if for no other reason than it doesn't include metrics for other C defensive values.

I also think their methodology in grading framing runs saved is off somehow. They rate Perez below Sal Fasano in defensive value for their careers, which is as ludicrous as it gets and reminds one of what's been said about lies, damn lies, and statistics...

How in the world can you grade framing?....too many variables and it prob changes ump to ump
If Sal was catching in New York, Boston or LA, he would be more celebrated for sure

It's rather subjective.

When they added framing to their C defensive calculations, it was enough to add19 WAR to Russell Martin's numbers while dropping 13 from Salvador Perez's number.

Just calculate that in strikes. How many strikes would one have to steal (at that point in Perez's career, it was only 8 seasons) to account for that many additional wins?

And how would you assign NEGATIVE value?

Bill James has openly spoke out against the overvaluation of framing and using DRS as a stat to measure catchers.

He has specifically says it unfairly takes away from the value of someone like Salvador Perez, who is one of the better defensive catchers for his time.

Good enough for me.

Hopefully the HOF voters listen when the time comes.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bobby Witt Jr.: .385/.433/.923, 4 HR, 11 RBI<br>Luis Arraez: .472/.472/.611, 17 H, 1 K<br><br>Your <a href="https://twitter.com/chevrolet?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Chevrolet</a> AL and NL Players of the Week! <a href="https://t.co/AlNehocOpZ">pic.twitter.com/AlNehocOpZ</a></p>&mdash; MLB (@MLB) <a href="https://twitter.com/MLB/status/1795548031753830476?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 28, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Yes. It is particularly funny that the guy that started that Twitter thread uses advanced stats to take a shot at Perez and then takes a shot at one of the 2-3 people most responsible for advanced stats existing.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Royals are already &quot;having internal discussions about which players to acquire before the trade deadline, an indication the team views this fast start as a postseason opportunity rather than a “we’re ahead of schedule” victory lap.&quot; <a href="https://t.co/ouYDBVG9Ce">https://t.co/ouYDBVG9Ce</a></p>&mdash; Royals Review (@royalsreview) <a href="https://twitter.com/royalsreview/status/1795570834654064729?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 28, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

What would Brent Rooker cost us? You know the A's are ready to do something crazy

He cost them Cam Gallagher 2 years ago.

I don’t think Brent Rooker is the answer.

I’d prefer Conforto when he’s healthy (should be back in the next week).

Ryan McMahon would also be a nice fit if the Rockies put him on the market (can play 2B, 3B, would be a good fit if Massey is on the IL long-term).

Excellent response.

Never felt like we gave him enough run.

It's so funny how we all fall so deeply in love with our backup catchers. You can stare at Cam's career OPS for an hour, and it's still gonna be 56 when you're done.

This team is showing its close. They really need to figure out an upgrade in the of and reinforcement in the own, whether that exists in Omaha or elsewhere.

Our old friend Jorge Lopez is available! Got ejected from the Mets game tonight, threw the team under the bus in the postgame and was DFA'ed within the hour. LMAO

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I asked Jorge Lopez if he regretted throwing his glove into the stands. Not only did he say no, he then called the Mets “the worst team in the whole f—cking MLB.” <br><br>I later gave him a chance to clarify and he confirmed that’s what he meant.<a href="https://t.co/Io2Cqh3Bdj">pic.twitter.com/Io2Cqh3Bdj</a></p>&mdash; Steve Gelbs (@SteveGelbs) <a href="https://twitter.com/SteveGelbs/status/1795980947633975642?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 30, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This gem was posted on May 28, 2024 during the 5th inning of a game that ended with the possible lead/winning run at the plate in the top of the 9th. With one of the best players in MLB at the plate.

I post the quote to demonstrate that the quoted poster is an absolute bitch.

After the Royals lose 3 straight after winning 8 straight. Oh and that 3 game losing streak? Over.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kris Bubic is looking GREAT through the first 3.0 innings of his rehab start tonight with <a href="https://twitter.com/OMAStormChasers?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@OMAStormChasers</a>!<br><br>3.0 innings, 1 hit, 1 walk &amp; 6 strikeouts. Fastball is sitting 91-93mph, slider has 4 whiffs so far (on 8 swings). <br><br>Here&#39;s his 4th of 6 strikeouts tonight, on the SL �� <a href="https://t.co/C1txtO8e3I">pic.twitter.com/C1txtO8e3I</a></p>&mdash; Nicholas Badders (@BadderUpSports) <a href="https://twitter.com/BadderUpSports/status/1795962338639499477?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 29, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Hahaha, holy cow man. Staaaay Classy. Talk about zero ****s to give. Enjoy the unemployment line George!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Seth Lugo of the <a href="https://twitter.com/Royals?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Royals</a> is the second pitcher in the modern era to win each of his first six road starts of a season while also allowing 0/1 runs in each one. <br><br>The other is Greg Maddux, who did so in the first seven road starts of his Cy Young-winning season of 1995. <a href="https://t.co/KTJYnFKZJJ">pic.twitter.com/KTJYnFKZJJ</a></p>&mdash; OptaSTATS (@OptaSTATS) <a href="https://twitter.com/OptaSTATS/status/1796017924638900489?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 30, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Lugo has been an absolute marvel. Anyone wanna do the work to find out the last time we had a pitcher who was 9-1? Without looking, I’d say maybe Appier in ‘95 or maybe Saberhagen in ‘87? For all I know, we may never have had a pitcher start the season 9-1.

But more than Lugo, to finally have a competent rotation is great. Hell, we’ve got one of the best rotations in the entire league, and that’s gonna keep us in the hunt all year. Nice knowing we have Lynch and Bubic perhaps waiting in the wings if anyone gets hurt and we won’t have a significant drop off.

If this continues, I’ll shoot my shot and say this will go down as the best rotation in KC history.

My guess would have been David Cone in 94 when he won the Cy Young, but he went 8-1 and then lost to go 8-2. Appier started 11-2 in 95 but his second loss came much earlier too. Paul Byrd would have been my next guess when he had that good year in 02 but he started 8-2 as well. I wouldn't have guessed Greinke but he actually started 8-1 his Cy Young year then lost his next two decisions. You may have to go back to the 80s to find someone.

If it’s actually even happened before, it’s probably something like Roger Nelson in 1974 or Busby.

I distinctively remember Sabes had a very hot start in 1987. I guess I need to stop farting around and do some digging…

I've brought this up multiple times the last couple of years, but the value they assign to framing is ****ing incredibly ludacris. The best frames in the league shouldn't get more than a couple of tenths of points of WAR for it.

There isn't really a way for them to quantify the value of framing, because there are soooo many variables that it would make it damn near impossible. You could go through statcast and look at all the balls that were called strikes instead, but that doesn't take into account the umpire and how do you verify if that specific umpire was going to call the pitch a ball or a strike anyways? What about strikes that are called balls even with a perfect framing catcher? How do you let that come into play?

Just too many variables and for a skill that probably equates to what, a couple of extra strikes at best? How in the hell do you justify that small miniscule value amounting to a 32 WAR swing between 2 players. Salvador Perez has a career fWAR of 17.1 in 11 years and Russell Martin had 19 fWAR added over 13 years just because of his framing?

Fangraphs is going to try and tell me that Martins framing is more valuable than everything Perez has done in his career? Perez having the 2nd highest CS% of any active player isn't near as impressive as Martin moving the ball to the middle of the plate when he catches?

It's insane that they keep pushing that bullshit.

I don't think weve had one. Greinke went 8-1 before going 8-2.

I think you’ve said more than I would ever want to say about framing.

It’s queer.

There isn’t a team in MLB who wouldn’t want
Salvador Perez as their catcher for the past 15 years.

The analytics move the goalposts all the time, and catchers keep getting ****ed.

Salvy said around 2019 when he had TJ surgery, he wanted to be a HOFer.

He missed a year, destroyed the Covid season, but had vision problems.

Went on to hit 48 homers.

Salvy is playing jokes on us.

This dude is gonna GO until he can’t. And I think he’s got five to six years left of good stuff.

400 HR is possible. 2000 hits is possible.

And a couple more playoff appearances…

How can you not love and hope for the best with this man’s career?

whoa

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">RHP Brady Singer has been scratched from today&#39;s game due to illness.<br><br>We have made the following roster moves: <a href="https://t.co/K6CPdDVIXg">pic.twitter.com/K6CPdDVIXg</a></p>&mdash; Kansas City Royals (@Royals) <a href="https://twitter.com/Royals/status/1796191123062297086?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 30, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Hopefully he gets better and can pitch sometime this weekend. Probably just a day off for Carlos Hernandez.

We probably win with Singer pitching today.

His career ERA at Minnesota is over 9.

Any early rumblings on who the Royals are looking at? Saw they were going to be buyers this go around.

Blake Mitchell is starting to hit.