Thank you for letting us know how clueless you are, and to know your thoughts don’t matter.

A “rivalry” that no one cares about.

Yep, they did that tonight when they lost to coastal carolina

Power 5 is dead. Power 2 plus some littles

There’s no such thing as a “power league” - only power programs, at least as it relates to CFB. There’s Bammy, then a drop off to mild contenders like Ohio St and Clemson. Then another drop to OU, Georgia, etc

Then there’s everybody else. 90% of your “power league” will never even win its *own* league.

I didn't say it would happen or that it should happen. It'd just be fun to have more regional rivalries.

I hate losing Oklahoma and Texas. I hated losing Missouri, Nebraska, Colorado, and to a lesser degree...Texas A&M. I enjoyed having all of the big schools around here in the conference. Oh well. Now we're gonna have 40 teams in the stupid ass SEC and the Big 12 will continue cobbling together whoever the frick is a big enough TV draw to keep the conference alive. Yay.

Basically same as it ever was. Teams at the top will rotate here and there when coaches retire.

New Conference re-alignment thread
 

Pretty much.

Big 12 should add Tulsa to replace Oklahoma & SMU to replace Texas. I think adding Creighton to replace Nebraska & Missouri State to replace Mizzou.

I’m sure the Big 12 will survive much like the MVC has survived.

The hilarious part of that is…KU would still have the worst football program in the conference.

Creighton?

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I’m sure they could field a team right?

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You have to excuse some of these people. They ate paint chips as kids, and apparently missed the B12 expansion teams.

Creighton’s football program…still better than Kansas.

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I'm still shocked that rival teams think it's some kind of own when they say our football program is bad.

lol no shit guys. feeling good about the direction though

We aren't dealing with creative people here.

We saw the past present AND future last nite. Texas losing to Arkansas and Mizzouche losing to a basketball school.

Least you're not Buffalo
Who lost bad yesterday to a Midwestern girls Volleyball school

Nobody spikes the ball like the lady Husker volleyball team

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ROFL

Perfect

Horns Down and anally abused by SEC bottom feeder

:)

How do the lower sports suffer for this. It seems like it is all about football.

I was reading a CBS article about AAC expansion. Just was they were looking like 5 Mountain West schools and UAB, want to stay as the premier G5 conference and promoting the ability to make the 12 team playoff or get promoted to the Big12. But the one paragraph that really stuck out, they said the Big12 is also monitoring the PAC12 media contract negotiations, and some schools may be interested in moving to the Big12.

I’d assume those schools would be 2-4 of Arizona, Arizona ST, Utah, and Colorado.

But another thing to think about is if the B1G ends up raiding the PAC and obviously some of those schools would want to join regardless.

Obviously I, and KU fans hope Iowa State and Kansas end up in the B1G instead, which might be the strongest rumor. But CBS reporting today the possibility of PAC schools to the Big12 caught my eye.

Colorado isn't coming back. Also the PAC won't get raided.

Big 12 raiding the PAC… ROFL

I think at one time, ASU/Arizona/Utah/Colorado might have been watching the B12, but now that OU and Texas are gone, I don’t see that being an option.

I’m dead at all the Mizzou hate in this thread. You say we are irrelevant, but all you do is bring us up. Ku clearly has an obsession. Mizzou has climbed the mountaintop. We are on top of the world. Ku is left wishing they are where we are.

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0% chance teams are leaving the alliance to play in a circling the bowl conference.

Delusional MU fans are the best.

Like I said, I was surprised to read that in the article.

Can only happen if the B1G raids the PAC.

A well paid jobber is still just a jobber.

I think it’s in the B1Gs court on which conference they give the death blow. Do they add Iowa State and Kansas and the PAC invites whenever and probably the ACC as well to all get to 16. Or does the B1G invite PAC schools the the Big12 get some leftovers. If the B1G raids the PAC they are likely going past 16 to 18 or 20 which opens the door for other conferences to follow. It just depends on how strong their verbal alliance is lol.

Or does everyone decide to stay at P5.

This is what I see now since the B12 didn't go to B16 when the chance for doing so now presented itself. I expect things will all calm down now for another 10-15 years.

Honestly if the PAC and the Big 12 combined and dropped the dead weight they would all make more money.

Why lug around Oregon State, Cal, Washington State, K-State?

The juggernauts of a Pac 12 and Big 12 would make more money per school and it would expand their media footprint.

Other than Texas and Oklahoma, Kansas makes the most revenue in the Big 12 followed by West Virginia. That is just revenue. They are HUGELY profitable due to CBB as well.

They’ve said they haven’t ruled out adding more teams closer to media negotiations. I think there will definitely be more movement in the next 2-3 years. That’s about the timeline other conferences would look to expand as well.

It sounds like the Big12 is going to be a 14 team conference for a few years and they may add two more to replace OuuT when they officially leave.

Or they leave early, but they can’t say they that now. And it helps the Big12’s case against them to “plan” on them being here.

This.

Apparently the basis for this idea is that the future Big 12’s media deal after 2025 will be bigger than the Pac 12’s new media deal?

There is no way that is happening.

Just the presence of UCLA and USC alone in the Pac 12 makes it a more valuable conference in terms of media rights.

IMHO it would be a mistake to wait. If there are valuable schools out there to be had, better to get them now and not risk them going to a more secure conference.

Um wat?


There's no value to be found anywhere that won't lie with Division I FBS's alignment once UT and OU shift to the SEC.

That game of musical chairs ended 10 years ago -if not even earlier-. OU and UT would ultimately be fine in any of the ACC/BIG/B12/PAC/SEC. Adding both probably only adds surplus value to BIG or SEC.

I don’t think the Big12 has to worry about that lol. If anyone else moves it will be to poach the Big12 or PAC.

The thought of Arizona and Arizona State leaving the Cali schools to go slumming with Gay State, Okie Light and the Rust Shacks is too hilarious to even consider.

Other than the cultural aspect, the amount of money the schools bring to the table is quite similar. Pac 12 and Big 12 are unfortunately very similar now in terms of athletic dept power post OU/TEXAS

Two P5 schools have no NFL 1st rounders since 2000


1. Indiana
2. Rust Shacks, baby Rust Shacks!

It’s been a lot longer than 2000 for us lol. Last time we were this good was like the 70’s. Still hasn’t stopped us from having one of the best fan bases. I’ve seen K-State and Mizzou pretty butthurt about us jumping them for bowl games because they wanted the high fan turnout instead. It’s only getting bigger now that we are good, and have a coach who’s turned down tons of jobs already.

Again, you aren't good, although you might be "big 12" good.

Oh yeah sure sure. Ranked as high as #6 last year, NY6 win over Oregon, beat Oklahoma(again) last year, made the Big12 Championship last year, preseason #7 this year, currently 14 even after a loss to a team with no offense. I’d say we are good. Notoriously bad in September under CMC, but we’ll be fine the rest of the year.

What’s your definition of good? Only the team who wins the national title? Or only the four who make the playoffs?

I didn’t say great, or elite. You’re an idiot if you don’t think Matt Campbell’s Iowa State is good.

Why are you talking about last year? You lost to Iowa and should have lost to a rebuilding Northern Iowa. What, specifically, is good about that?

Because we have the same team as last year? And we start off slow every year? And September is irrelevant in December? Keep up kid.

Iowa State lost to Iowa while playing bad and mostly because of turnovers. Turnovers are easier to clean up than not being able to move the ball at all. Iowa is going to struggle in games their defense doesn’t score in.

But by your definition Ohio State isn’t good right? Played a tight game with Minnesota(lol) then lost to Oregon?

I really hope Iowa State and Kansas get invited to the B1G in the next few years. I can’t wait to play Iowa at the end of the season instead.

Lol! Enjoy your numerous level 5 violations. Thank god for KState being the flagship institution in the state of Kansas. True leadership and a real AD there.

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It would be cool if college football was like any other sport at any level where it had a real governing body and it wasn’t just up to the individual conferences. Like it should be the P5 under one banner. Similar to how the NFL gets paid out of media rights. Sure, you should make more for the more premium slots.

I just hope college football doesn’t collapse after it’s definitely peaked already.

Lol. If reeruns keep tuning in to see the same few teams dominate and one of them win the title every year, there’s no incentive to improve the sport

Proving my point. Thanks

P4

P2.5
Alabama
Clemson
Ohio State (.5)

I've heard a bit of that theory, that it will become a regional sport and people outside the hot beds will stop caring. An interview with someone from the NE made it seem pretty clear that people up there already don't give a shit about college football.

Pretty much the truth.

College football is dull as hell these days. I used to watch it all day Saturdays. Whoever was on, I'd watch. I'd watch all the pregame shows as well.

I might watch a few minutes here and there now. but it just doesn't interest me any longer.

Jesus Christ shit is bad at Rutgers.

https://rutgersaaup.org/wp-content/u...-Athletics.pdf

I agree with that. Competitive balance is an issue and the general interesting-ness of college FB across the country seems to be down.

people watch KU play hoops in the Big whateverthe**** still

2 years ago Kansas football blew out B.C. on the road 48-24

The Big Only Conference to Reach the Final Four the Past Three Seasons.... and with three different teams!

So I’ve heard from a few different people that there are a few PAC12 schools interested in joining the Big12. Obviously it would be a few years out from now, and would be based on how media negotiations go for both conferences.

But allegedly Arizona, Arizona St, and Colorado are interested in joining the Big12. The 4th school mentioned with them is Boise St(?), personally I’d prefer Memphis, but surprised Utah wasn’t the 4th.

I’d assume that’s a backup plan for them if the B1G rumors of adding 4-6 of Oregon, USC, and so on. Or who knows, maybe the Big12 ends up with that rumored Amazon deal who’s known to overpay and wants the Big12 at 14-16 teams.

I think this four pod Big12 could be fun.

Arizona
Arizona St
Colorado
BYU

Iowa State
Kansas
Kansas State
Oklahoma State

Texas Tech
Houston
Baylor
TCU

Cincinnati
Memphis
West Virginia
UCF

But I’m still holding out hope that the B1G expands, and it’s with Iowa State and Kansas.

I had to stop reading here.

Even if (IF!) teams wanted to leave a stable conference for this cluster, there is no f-ing way Colorado is one of them. They couldn't wait to join the P12, I think the term thrown around was "better cultural fit" (west coast over midwest)

The California schools will not want to be split between two conferences and will want to play each other every year if in the same.

That definitely stuck out to me as well, but hearing it from a few different people was interesting. But the PAC was probably the least stable conference up until Texas and OU decided to join the SEC.

Plus you had Boise State and San Diego State today saying they would not join AAC and stay with the Mountain West because they were waiting on a Big 12 or a PAC 12 possible bid.

I like these 4 pods!

I just don't see Boise State getting a PAC 12 bid. They bring nothing of value to that conference.

Obviously it’s all shit on the wall at the moment, but about a month ago I heard people in the industry are expecting 70-80 “power schools”, rather than the earlier assumed P4, 64 schools. The question was if that’s a P5, P4, or P2.

The 70-80 sounded kind of strange, but then the Big12 started expanding.

Which part of that isn't compete dogshit?

****, thought I had been huffing paint and reading this from weeks ago.

This shit again?

As fantasies go, it's not bad. Not that any of those teams from the PAC12 are particularly desirable.

Rusty, WTF is wrong with your Uni?

https://news.yahoo.com/iowa-state-st...221513143.html

The lesbian cousin of the family lashes out at Thanksgiving dinner! BOOOOOOOOOOOO

Yet it's still a better product than the garbage play in college hoops. Holy hell what a pile of shit it's become.

I can't remember the last college football game I watched start to finish.

I do watch many college basketball games start to finish including games not featuring KU.

To me it is much better than college football these days.

Oh ya Big Clank Freethrowathon conference hoops is just the pinnacle!