This happened before. It's a lie that he never had a slump.

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A big difference right now is he snapped out of this slump in a way he never did in 2019, not really until the Texans game.

We're going places.

That’s another thing. Tom Brady has shit games like today all the time. Has for literal decades now. He doesn’t get raked over the coals for it when he does (usually because his team is still good enough to get the win in those situations). I’m still not sure why Mahomes was getting attacked like he was the past few weeks after wins (both here and in the national media). Do some just really want to see him fail?

That’s fair but I would say the past 3 was definitely his worst slump. It does happen to the best of them, though, and I never saw it as a reason to worry in the long term.

Mahomes appeared to be more focused on taking the dumpoff passes early. Then he started chucking it late. He still missed several open deep receivers today.

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Yeah dude, if these 4 games are the ****ing floor for Patrick Mahomes... Watch the **** out.

Yip!

We all knew he would bounce back, we just didn't know when. I didn't see the game but its read about Mahomes being back to his old dominating self.

Uh...I was making fun of his and people who say shit like "you don't deserve [insert athlete/celebrity here]"

I predicted 5 touchdowns this season and multiple 5 touchdown games not hard to predict most of the games thus far we inflicted self wounds like balls hitting the hands and bouncing up in the air to be picked off and our defense not playing well but Patrick has played balls even if his team hasn't. It's still a team effort we just happen to have the best quarterback that has ever breathed.

Five touchdowns

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Fair enough....:thumb:

I wonder if he was taking chances to take some load off a 32 yo Kelce. Load management should become a real thing. He is not going to heal as fast.

Ahem. :p

Do you guys realize that there was something on the news last week about a group of fans talking about flying a banner to bench Mahomes?

'Now that is ****ing stupidity... However most can see that Mahomes played more consistent last night taking what was given to him and was successful. As others have said, he is still slightly off on his deep throws, but those will come back. The league better watch the **** out!

They definitely do. There are people all over Twitter constantly calling him "MaFraud" (really ****ing creative nickname, BTW). They seem to find great joy in every loss and every mediocre game he has. Every good game he has is chalked up to something else (great receivers, lucky that a pick was dropped, etc.). So many people want to see him fail.

Get used to it. This is what happens when people hate us cuz they anus. It's lonely at the top and if you can't handle the ride, then you should hop off.

Would you consider yourself a Patricksexual?

Question: Will Chief Fan bitch about literally anything?

Answer:

A true NFL QB does more than merely 35/50 for 406 yards and 5 touchdowns and only tie the all time record for the amount of 400 yard 5 TD games he's delivered in his career.

But that's all we're going to get with Backyard Football Patrick in his fourth year as a starter. Rough life as a KC fan.

Most of those trolls are Old Patriot/New Bucs fans. And some are angry Ravens, and Bills fans. When we punch our ticket to the third straight SB, the Twitter meltdown will be epic!!

Pete never had a bad week at work apparently.

(BTW...1 week for you = 5 days, one week for Patrick = 5 games)

Need to stop making this magician play pure pocket passer and let him do his thing.

It's been extremely entertaining to watch the talking heads try to find negatives in the 35/50 406 yard 5td performance.

Imagine being so stupid as to rate that performance a B. As if 400+, 5td performances are just run of the mill. The dude tied the NFL record of 3rd time he's done it. Those he's tied with will never take another snap.

Yeah, just a B. Oh and the throw to Darrell Williams scares me. Just run for the first down right there. Don't trust your teammate, because 50/50 balls now are something the other qbs can do without reproach, but Mahomes needs to be less careless.

That one throw was almost intercepted! He missed some passes! Still not Mahomes! He's still off!!

**** off.

If he dropped 406 and 5tds and is off, then he's literally a football God.

Pray he never gets right, Negative Nancy or you may never be able to stomach football again for the next 15 years

Negative helps sell the fastfood and ED ads

Preach.

Dude...could you imagine if Lamar Jackson threw for 400 yds and 5 TDs? They'd anoint him as the Messiah.

He genuinely was still a little bit off which is truly exciting as that would be a career game for 98% of the starting QBs in NFL history yet with Pat it still felt like if he a) had the need to go for more late in the 4th b) had 1 more top class Wide Receiver and and c) tidied up a few decisions then he could go for another 80+ yards that game and routinely go for 350+ most weeks.

If they establish some run threat and get Kelce free in the soft zone for regular 1st down yards like that then the offence will start to force changes on the Defensive patterns.

I wonder how Football Immortals Rogers and Wilson fared this week in their matchup?

I've always wondered why Wilson gets a pass for having turd games like he had on Sunday...

He does all the time and he does this every year multiple weeks yet not a word of criticism

Some guys get a reputation for being underrated and it makes them immune from criticism. Wilson is one of them.

It is interesting his itchy trigger finger could take no more late. But I'll give Patrick a ton of credit. He made sure the game was in hand before he went crazy. After Raiders ruined the perfect season last year and double lapped the stadium, Patrick was out for blood. It was massacre too.

Something else I like is the nickle and dime approach was carving up LV. Patrick sent a message by launching bombs everywhere once the Raiders changed from shell coverage. "You're either going to give us free yards and open running lanes or I'm going to steal your soul when you start to cheat up." They always said the fluffy smiley Mahomes isn't really him. This kid was born a killer in the same manner as Michel Jordan. He's just nicer in the way he goes about it.

Outside of a handful of weeks every few seasons, no one has mistaken Wilson for being the best like Mahomes, Brady, Rodgers, etc. That gets you a lot more rope.

He was also a third-round pick.

AFC player of the week. The NFL is such a joke. This award should be given to legit NFL QBs, not some backyard football playing flash in the pan gimmick.

Iths dithguthting.

This thread is an exemplary example of why one shouldn't be an over reactionary, over emotional wanna-be know it all.

At first glance this seems redundant. But it’s really not. Just never see it used before. Nice.

Wilson is a good qb but way too inconsistent. Mahomes has had rough games. He has never really had a zero game. Wilson has a few every season. People see highlights and think he's mahomes. He's usually more Alex Smith except that he's way better with the deep ball when he wants to get aggressive.

Wilson didn’t really become a gunslinger until his 4th or 5th year in. When he was going to Super Bowls his play was definitely more Alex Smith and his defense carried him a lot. He’s always had a knack for a spectacular play though.

He was worse than Alex Smith. If Alex Smith had 4 interceptions in a playoff game, you'd never hear the end of it. Wilson's Superbowl bowl runs were average at best. He just had an all time defense to bail him out.

Also, we can scream at Darrell Bevell all we want for the play call that lost them the SB against the Patriots, but he ain't the one who fired the gun. That was Wilson. Good defense by the Patriots, good play by what's his ass LB who picked it off can't remember his name, but that's the NFL. Wilson deserves more of the blame for that than he receives.

Honestly didn't seem like a bad throw. More of a great play by the defensive back IMHO.

Bite your tongue. Pete is a national treasure who's going to singlehandedly win us multiple Superbowls with his incredible ability to make the opposite of his predictions happen.

At the time I was screaming with joy because that play won me $1300.

But now I'd gladly pay $1300 to give Tom Brady one more Superbowl defeat.

Same with Atlanta. I was rooting for the comeback because I thought it was amazing. Now I feel shame. **** Tom Brady.

I'd even take back the tuck rule because I'm sure the Raiders would have blown it the next week.

Sounds alot like a certain QB in Tampa.

Also when you over-react to one game you don't see potential trends emerging that may put that one game performance into context.

For example, Mahomes's performance against Green Bay's defense now doesn't look so bad when you look at what they have done the past three games including handing Russell Wilson his first career shutout last week.

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A fumble to lose his first big playoff game. Who knows where the Patriots would have gone from there. But it was the first of many very favorable calls from the refs over the last 20 years.

Followed up by missing the playoffs entirely the next season

Brady’s career is filled with those moments

Far more of his SB wins are a product of his defense more than a product of him.

Brady is very good and letting his defense present him with key opportunities and then he has been good enough to take advantage of them as they present themselves.

He keeps the offense going enough so they are never far out of the game and generally plays enough ball control that his defense isn't gassed in the 4th q.

It's smart football if you have the team that can do it.

Not true at all. If you look at Brady's teams defensive/offensive rank during his SB years, they are very close to each other. In really only one year was the defense far ahead of the offense.

Brady has won 7 Super Bowls and 5 Super Bowl MVPs. In all of those SB winning years except one, Patriots/Bucs have had a top 10 scoring offense. To do most of that in windy New England in the Northeast is impressive.

And in one SB game that he didn't win Super Bowl MVP, he made Deion Branch, a late 2nd round draft pick and number 2 receiver who didn't do much with the Seattle Seahawks, look like a legit #1 receiver. Patriots knew he wasn't a real #1 so they traded him.

Of the 7 Super Bowl wins within context of his teammates and the opponents, he just didn't play at least very well in one SB win and even there he came up big in the clutch. The 13-3 victory vs the Rams. Even in that game, it was more about Rams shutting down the Patriots outside receivers pretty much the entire game than Brady missing a bunch of open receivers. Brady still threw for over 260 yards despite the Patriots running the ball a lot. Patriots would not have been in the Super Bowl that year without Brady and the offense leading them to 2 victories (41-28 vs Chargers and 37-31 on the road vs the Chiefs).

In that Rams game, Brady was 0-6 throwing it to Hogan and 21-29 throwing it to everyone else. AFAIR Hogan had at least one great catch vs the Chiefs in AFC championship game so that may have led Brady/McDaniels/Belichick to have too much faith in Hogan in the SB. Hogan had several opportunities to make a big catch and just didn't in that SB. It was Hogan losing a 60/40 ball to a deflection at the start of the game which led to Brady's only interception of that game. It was Hogan's last game with the Patriots...they didn't offer him a new contract.

I remember a game the year after Tom Brady won a Super Bowl and he came to Arrowhead Stadium and threw 3 interceptions and we kicked the defending Super Bowl champs ass and after the game Dick Vermeil cried tears of joy.


**** Tom Brady he's had plenty of games he looked like shit in.


****ing Peyton Manning won a Super Bowl without throwing a touchdown but he threw an interception his defense won him that Super Bowl.


There is was nothing wrong with Patrick Mahomes but getting the team to play at his level.

Who gives a flying ****shit about offensive ranking? Lamar Jackson had the Ravens as a top 5 offense just about every year he's been a starter. And that dude struggles to throw for 3000 yards, much less 4000 in the wild and wooly NFL of today. But at least as a RB he can tout an impressive total yardage number to justify that stat. Brady throwing for 200/game and handing it off to Bill's RB-of-the-week doesn't mean his contributing to that offensive ranking the way other QBs do.

Brady was nothing but an Alex Smith game manager for his first few years in the league. I've said before that he production he put up with Moss and Hernandez is the most impressive feat of his career. To me, that's where he has shined as an all-time great QB, not because he farted out another ring against that Rams team or because he got tuck ruled into his first championship or any of that other garbage ass bullshit he had no part in that has accounted for nearly all of his rings.

Also, I gotta laugh at "Brady made Deion Branch look like a #1 WR." Yeah, sure thing, bud. And I suppose people thought Kenbrell Tompkins was also a starting WR their teams should try to acquire because he was the #1 in New England that year. What's next? If Jakobi Meyers leaves New England at the end of his contract for a higher payday, are you going to claim that Belichick made Meyers look like a real #1 WR?

Also, what? It's more impressive to do Brady shit in New England because of weather? Yeah, then Brady goes down to Miami once a year and ****s up the game. **** off with that dumbass shit.

ROFL

Oh my. You actually believe that it was all Brady?

Super Bowl XXXVI- NE 20 - STL Rams 17

Brady wins MVP by throwing an amazing 145 yards and 1 TD. The defense generated three turnovers against the Greatest Show on Turf, one being a pick 6 and it took a game winning 48 yard field goal to win it. All Brady I guess. Mind you the Patriots were only in this SB because of the newly created that playoff game against the Raiders "Tuck Rule".

Super Bowl XXXVIII- NE 32 - CAR 29. Credit, where credit's due. Brady had a good season and a good SB.

Super Bowl XXXIX- NE 24 - Philly 21

Another SB where the NE defense stepped up by generating 4 turnovers. Brady of course put up stellar numbers with 236 yards and 2 TDs. Shocking he didn't get the MVP with that elite stat line.

Super Bowl XLIX- NE 28 - SEA 24

This SB will always go down as the one the Seahawks lost more than NE won. It was Brady's game winning INT that sealed it for them. Ooops, I mean the Butler's game winning INT. It can get hard at times not giving Brady credit for EVERYTHING.

Super Bowl LI- NE 34 - ATL 28

Yet another SB that will be remembered as much for ATL losing it as NE winning it. Credit to Brady on leading his team back. Had ATL not gone into a shell they most likely win that game, but a win is a win.

Super Bowl LIII- NE 13 - LAR 3

Yet another "dominant" performance by Brady with his 262 yards and 1 INT. I would like to give credit to the defense for shutting down the high powered Rams offense, but then I would be taking the glory from the GOAT and his elite showing. Let's also not forget the game ending INT he threw in the AFCCG that was called back because he used his superior mental abilities to cause Dee Ford to line up offside. That's just what GOATs do.

Super Bowl - LV TB 31 - KC 9

Before highlighting the epic greatness for leading the NYJ, oops, I mean JAX, silly me the talent rich TB Bucs to the SB it needs to be highlighted that Brady played poorly vs both NO and GB yet was bailed out by his defense. But since we can't give credit to anyone but the GOAT, it was all him. He was fortunate to face a KC team that had almost all backups on the O-Line and a Mahomes who was battling turf toe. If you saw how Brady dominated the KC Oline and forcing Mahomes to throw 2 INTs, it's easy to see why Brady is the GOAT. No other QB could have done this.

Simply put, Brady is a good QB and HOF bound, but a ton of his success in SBs is a product of his defense more than him. Take away the tuck rule and an offsides he has 5 SBs, of which 2-3 at most are a product of him. That is still good, but not GOAT worthy. Add in DeflateGate and SpyGate and he also has two punishable offenses on teams he has played for. It's just annoying that people polish his knob for being the beneficiary of what others did.

Love this post. Also I’d add all the teams Brady was able to help have a top 10 defense and all the amazing blocking Brady did to always have a top 10 OL. Brady truly is the GOAT!!

WHAT THE **** IS WRONG WITH MAHOMES?!

**** every single detractor in this thread.

Is he earning his salary now, ****s?

Won't Sniff!!!!!

He has a batshit crazy fiancé, and a whatever he is batshit crazy brother.

Well, the mid-season version of him showed up in the 2nd half. He will need to learn from it and find a way to be more consistent next season.

Going to have to say this had no impact on the game today whatsoever.

Just a game. They had nothing to do with it.

He got tight or something. Missed several easy short completions to RBs, and then stopped reading at all, culminating in the complete miss of kelce wide open in the Ez that would've ended the game.

he's human. he'll bounce back.

INT was the killer. D was playing well enough to hold to a FG if we had to punt there. Just an awful mistake. Pat seemed shell shocked.

He played maybe the worst football of his career in the second half and overtime. I didn’t think we would ever see that from Mahomes. It sucks but this definitely tarnished his legacy. He looked like he was seeing ghosts in the second half. No that doesn’t mean I’m a hater or traitor. Just calling it like it is. I wouldn’t trade him for anyone but he played like shit after that screw-up at the end of the first half.

It did not "tarnish" his legacy, Jesus Christ.

Of course it does. People will remember this choke job. If you want to be remembered as one of the greats you don’t lose that game.

Jimmy G is a quarter away from his 2nd Super Bowl

Oh yeah?

Was Brady's legacy tarnished by getting literally outplayed against Mark Sanchez and Ryan Tannehill in the playoffs?

How about Peyton Manning losing 41-0 in the playoffs and him getting outplayed by the legendary Jay Fiedler and the incredible Mark Sanchez in two other playoff losses?

Yeah no. No one even remembers those losses anymore. Patrick's legacy is fine. The meltdowns here today are getting out of hand.

Mahomes was one play away from his 3rd.. what’s your point?


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I’m not sure WTF I witnessed with Pat?!?

Was he concussed? Just shell shocked? I don’t recall ever seeing him look like that in a big game, especially in the playoffs!?! He didn’t even looked like he was fired up on the sidelines like normal rallying the troops.

It’s like the Chiefs offense and Mahomes were beamed aboard an alien ship at halftime and they replaced them with what we saw in the second half . . . . . just don’t get it.

They were moving the ball ‘at will’ in the first half and then all of a sudden couldn’t do anything at all.

And it’s not like the Bengals defense was all that great either. They weren’t dominating the line of scrimmage or anything. Pat looked like he couldn’t do anything or make a decision and wouldn’t just tuck it and run with it when he had the opening . . . . . the whole thing was just weird.

They looked like they (offense) mailed it in the second half and I’m just trying to figure out why? Did the Bills games from last week take too much out of them or did they just put it in ‘coast mode’ cause they thought they could cruise to victory after the way the first half went?

I don’t know that I’ll ever understand that loss and Pat’s play in the second half. It just doesn’t make any sense at all.

Yea, he was moping on the sideline.

Excellent points.

I’ll just say, though, that everyone outside the Kingdom is gonna dump on Mahomes during the off-season and next season, and we’ll just have to keep our heads down and deal with it until he comes out on top again. No use fighting against it. Don’t expect outside validation.

Yep. Those are the breaks when having an elite QB. When they stumble, the world is going to take glee in it for a while. But what we have to remember is that there are 27 (28?) teams that would trade their QB straight up for Mahomes in a heartbeat.

I don't think a lot of KC fans are adjusted to this reality yet.

Yes playoff choke jobs absolutely tarnish legacies. Again, he’s still a great qb and I wouldn’t trade him for anyone but the best qb in football should not lose that game.

Tarnished his legacy? LMAO

So Brady and Manning's legacies were tarnished, then?

How about Drew Brees? How about Aaron Rodgers? Russ Wilson's, too?

First bad playoff game for Mahomes. Hopefully he studies the tape and learns from it.

Never again.