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chiefforlife 09-13-2019 10:09 AM

Fitzpatrick is at practice today for Miami, proving just how stupid Miami is once again.
If he gets hurt in practice there goes any value you had in him. Why not hold him out until you see what you can get for him?

Dunerdr 09-13-2019 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefoftheKeyboard (Post 14444877)
If Minkah can hold down the slot and we give up our 1 for him, what would you think of using fuller to try to get Pat Peterson? Maybe fuller and a mid round pick like a 3 and get a 5th back from AZ.

uh id say this is probably a fuller or pat pete situation if its either of them. it would be rough to get three guys up to speed including scandrick part 2 in a few weeks.

KChiefs1 09-13-2019 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by huskerdooz (Post 14444868)
Per PFF Fitzpatrick was the 7th best CB in passer rating allowed.

7. MINKAH FITZPATRICK, MIAMI DOLPHINS
Passer Rating Allowed: 69.0
Fitzpatrick is the second rookie to make this list, but he’s the first player to make it who didn’t primarily play outside corner in 2018. The Dolphins had Minkah line up all over the field this past season; he spent 379 snaps as a slot corner, 281 snaps out wide and another 261 snaps as either a free or box safety. In coverage, Minkah was especially effective out of the slot, where he ranked first among cornerbacks by allowing just a 53.4 passer rating.

Of course Xavien Howard was ranked 3rd.

3. XAVIEN HOWARD, MIAMI DOLPHINS
Passer Rating Allowed: 62.6
Howard took a nice step forward during his third NFL campaign, finishing the season with a 75.3 coverage grade which bested his previous best grade by nearly 12 points (63.6 in 2017). Howard allowed 29 catches on 57 targets for 469 yards and four touchdowns to go with his league-leading seven interceptions (and he missed four games at the end of the season). The former second-round pick held opposing signal-callers to a sub-100 passer rating when targeting him in coverage in 8 of 12 games last season



I’d take both of them.

Skyy God 09-13-2019 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefoftheKeyboard (Post 14444877)
If Minkah can hold down the slot and we give up our 1 for him, what would you think of using fuller to try to get Pat Peterson? Maybe fuller and a mid round pick like a 3 and get a 5th back from AZ.

Nah.

Fuller is making $2M this year. No way I'm playing PP, who doesn't know the scheme, 5x as much and trading draft capital.

The Franchise 09-13-2019 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefforlife (Post 14444894)
Fitzpatrick is at practice today for Miami, proving just how stupid Miami is once again.
If he gets hurt in practice there goes any value you had in him. Why not hold him out until you see what you can get for him?

Because the Dolphins are trying to win. /s

chiefforlife 09-13-2019 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14444904)
Because the Dolphins are trying to win. /s

Not sure if you are serious but if they were trying to win they wouldnt allow him to seek a trade.

ChiefoftheKeyboard 09-13-2019 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Cave Johnson (Post 14444902)
Nah.

Fuller is making $2M this year. No way I'm playing PP, who doesn't know the scheme, 5x as much and trading draft capital.

We'd be paying fitzpatrick less than 2M this year to cover the slot though, and we'd have him for 3 extra years on a cheap contract when you take into account the 5th yr option. And we'd actually be getting something in return for fuller rather than letting him walk in the offseason. It isn't like fuller has been in this defense for 3 years either. He probably is still scratching the surface as well. It would be a lot to get minkah and pat peterson up to speed, but we have a great offense to lean on, then we'd get hill back in about 5 weeks and you have claiborne coming back in another 3 weeks. We don't need the defense to be great by week 5. We need them to be ready to beat the pats in foxborough week 14 and this would give us a lot more talent to do that.

htismaqe 09-13-2019 10:31 AM

Trade for Fitzpatrick, Peterson, Rhodes, and Howard. Super Bowl!

Mecca 09-13-2019 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 14444923)
Trade for Fitzpatrick, Peterson, Rhodes, and Howard. Super Bowl!

Houshmazilli,championship!

T-post Tom 09-13-2019 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 14444359)

At any rate, a second year player that has no clout has no room to be requesting shit. Suck it up and do what your coaches ask.

Has nothing to do with his ability to help the Chiefs.

T-post Tom 09-13-2019 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by huskerdooz (Post 14444868)
Per PFF Fitzpatrick was the 7th best CB in passer rating allowed.

7. MINKAH FITZPATRICK, MIAMI DOLPHINS
Passer Rating Allowed: 69.0
Fitzpatrick is the second rookie to make this list, but he’s the first player to make it who didn’t primarily play outside corner in 2018. The Dolphins had Minkah line up all over the field this past season; he spent 379 snaps as a slot corner, 281 snaps out wide and another 261 snaps as either a free or box safety. In coverage, Minkah was especially effective out of the slot, where he ranked first among cornerbacks by allowing just a 53.4 passer rating.

Of course Xavien Howard was ranked 3rd.

3. XAVIEN HOWARD, MIAMI DOLPHINS
Passer Rating Allowed: 62.6
Howard took a nice step forward during his third NFL campaign, finishing the season with a 75.3 coverage grade which bested his previous best grade by nearly 12 points (63.6 in 2017). Howard allowed 29 catches on 57 targets for 469 yards and four touchdowns to go with his league-leading seven interceptions (and he missed four games at the end of the season). The former second-round pick held opposing signal-callers to a sub-100 passer rating when targeting him in coverage in 8 of 12 games last season

Yes. Only thing he can't do effectively is cover TEs. Chiefs aren't going to ask him to do that. He won't be playing LB either.

Stinger 09-13-2019 10:44 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Notes if Minkah Fitzpatrick were traded:<br>* Under contract through 2021 (plus a fifth-year option)<br>* Base salary/cap hit in 2019-2021: $1.23M, $1.98M and $2.27M <br>* Just 22 years old<br>* Can play either safety spot and slot cornerback<br>* Recorded 80 tackles, 9 PD and 2 INT as a rookie</p>&mdash; Field Yates (@FieldYates) <a href="https://twitter.com/FieldYates/status/1172473880293720064?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 13, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Like the Salary/Cap Hit #'s. Allows Chiefs to be more flexible and go in different directions of other needs as well.

St. Patty's Fire 09-13-2019 10:52 AM

haha my friend is a diehard fins fan and he texted me last night “chiefs should trade for Minkah”

I completely agree. 22 year old DB with upside who can play all over the secondary? get this shit done

ChiefoftheKeyboard 09-13-2019 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by T-post Tom (Post 14444929)
Has nothing to do with his ability to help the Chiefs.

No kidding and when the whole team isn't buying in you can't put that all on one player. The problem is clearly with their front office/coaching staff, not just the players.

htismaqe 09-13-2019 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Stinger (Post 14444942)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Notes if Minkah Fitzpatrick were traded:<br>* Under contract through 2021 (plus a fifth-year option)<br>* Base salary/cap hit in 2019-2021: $1.23M, $1.98M and $2.27M <br>* Just 22 years old<br>* Can play either safety spot and slot cornerback<br>* Recorded 80 tackles, 9 PD and 2 INT as a rookie</p>&mdash; Field Yates (@FieldYates) <a href="https://twitter.com/FieldYates/status/1172473880293720064?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 13, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Like the Salary/Cap Hit #'s. Allows Chiefs to be more flexible and go in different directions of other needs as well.

And that’s true for 30 other teams. They’re not going to get him on the cheap.


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