They're always reluctant to play young guys, save for the young guys that they've drafted super high and are ready day 1. Think Peters, Morse etc.

Seems Andy's M.O is always rely on vets even if they suck.

What the **** was this draft even? I thought atleast Nnamdi would be good but he hadn't done much. Veach is going to be Ryan Grigson.

Interesting notes on O’Daniel. I think he’ll he’ll start seeing more play time around mid season.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Needs more time with the playbook and picking up the defense. He&#39;s making contributions on special teams already but believe it will be later in the season before he makes contributions on defense.</p>&mdash; Matt Derrick (@mattderrick) <a href="https://twitter.com/mattderrick/status/1041410397885083649?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 16, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Dorian O&#39;Daniel&#39;s lone defensive snap for the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> came in the 3Q on a third down play that ended in an incompletion for <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Steelers?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Steelers</a>. He didn&#39;t have a big impact on the play, but that&#39;s a lot of trust to put him out there. K.C. went up by 2 scores on following offensive drive.</p>&mdash; Charles Goldman (@goldmctNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/goldmctNFL/status/1041773490049884160?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 17, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

You mean a rookie 3rd round DL didn't have an immediate impact? I'm shocked.

Veach may or may not be good. But to label him that at this point is, well, pretty Billay.

You keep trying to lock horns because I won't suck every players dick nor Veachs. Its year 2 of his regime with not much to show for.

He's had 1 draft and free agency period.

Condemn all you want.

I will continue to do so until he acquires talent on the defense. You and your ilk every week demand Sutton be fired. It is not Bob Sutton that is failing this franchise hes working with shit.

I don’t think it’s fair to say last year was Brett Veach’s first year since he didn’t run the draft, free agency or anything.

I will say Scandrick and Erving played well in Pittsburgh, but Speaks and Ragland were awful.

He didn’t even have an offseason LMAO

Hitchens has a history as a solid coverage backer, going all the way back to college. I'm not worried about Hitchens at all. He didn't play all pre-season and he came from a Marinelli defense. He's going to get better as he adjusts to scheme.

We didn't get a single starter out of that draft. We didn't even really get a capable backup out of that draft. It's still early but dang, you can't get nothing out of a draft at all for 2 or 3 years. It's Dee Ford-itis and it's killing this defense.

I hope you are right. If he improves that aspect this defense can get to about middle of the pack which is all it needs to be. I will say one of the few nice bright spots has been Dee Ford. Hes played very well.

I don't mind role players being picked but they need to play their roles, not ride the pine,

Veach basically drafted Mahomes if you believe Louis Riddick. He is the one who got that ball rolling.

So forgive me if I'm not a Veach hater.

Way better than Amerson for sure...