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Baby Lee 05-28-2022 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Jenson71 (Post 16312567)
I was geared up to pulling the trigger on Paramount+ for this purpose. But the early reviews deterred me. The trailer also looked really . . . fantastical, or exaggerated.

I'm very willing to be persuaded to jump in.

I've caught a couple more episodes, and I gotta reiterate and amplify my high estimation of Goode as Evans. Might be the best thing I've seen on television in years.

Nobody is bad or distracting. I won't spoil how some of the characters you'll be familiar with are portrayed or by whom [other than what you can see in a trailer], but they play it pretty low-key and straightforward, not a lot of caricatures [unless you count some of the actual Mafioso being portrayed]

Teller doesn't exactly embody Ruddy, but unless you are a complete geek, he's not someone whose persona is established for you anyway. Probably most people watching don't even know who Ruddy is beforehand. And Teller is fine in the role as written, even if it isn't an exact replication of the actual personality. And Ruddy himself, at 90-something, was intimately involved in the production, so I doubt he would let Teller's portrayal of his own self ring false, at least to his own vision of himself in that time.

It's tough for me to divorce my love for the subject matter and my enjoyment of seeing it dramatized. There are other narrative paths this could have taken or other aspects that could have been more the center of attention, but it's a pretty darn good tale just as a story, and all the moreso for it being based in fact.

Pepe Silvia 05-28-2022 07:27 PM

Too bad I don't have any streaming services, seems like a lot of good shows are on Paramount, Apple Tv, and HBO max.

The Offer is definitely up my alley, I would watch it in a second if I could. And as a bonus it has Juno Temple. :drool:

BigBeauford 05-29-2022 09:16 PM

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What have they done to Barry. Why are the showrunners all of a sudden afraid to play in the universe they created. Some of these bits are brutally unfunny. And they've completely sidelined Hank.

Pepe Silvia 05-29-2022 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BigBeauford (Post 16313729)
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What have they done to Barry. Why are the showrunners all of a sudden afraid to play in the universe they created. Some of these bits are brutally unfunny. And they've completely sidelined Hank.

That’s what they do. They get you hooked on a great show but after a few seasons it turns pc and they start pushing their agendas down your throat. And that is always the beginning of the end. They did it to The Sopranos, they did it to Shameless, and they will do it to Barry and every other show in existence.

Buehler445 05-29-2022 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by PackerinMo (Post 16313739)
That’s what they do. They get you hooked on a great show but after a few seasons it turns pc and they start pushing their agendas down your throat. And that is always the beginning of the end. They did it to The Sopranos, they did it to Shameless, and they will do it to Barry and every other show in existence.

What did they push in Sopranos?

I haven’t watched the other 2

Pepe Silvia 05-29-2022 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 16313776)
What did they push in Sopranos?

I haven’t watched the other 2

They started pushing the gay agenda. During the final season it was revealed that Vito (who was Tonys biggest earner) was a homosexual. Don't get me wrong it was a very interesting twist to the plot but they carried on with it for wayyyy too long, they wasted almost all of season 6 on it. It reached a point where it got so gay that many of my friends actually quit watching it even though the series was coming to an end anyway.

This was the scene that ended up being the final straw in most fans eyes.

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Buehler445 05-29-2022 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by PackerinMo (Post 16313784)
They started pushing the gay agenda. During the final season it was revealed that Vito (who was Tonys biggest earner) was a homosexual. Don't get me wrong it was a very interesting twist to the plot but they carried on with it for wayyyy too long, they wasted almost all of season 6 on it. It reached a point where it got so gay that many of my friends actually quit watching it even though the series was coming to an end anyway.

This was the scene that ended up being the final straw in most fans eyes.

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Yeah. It was weird. But so was a bunch of the shit they spent a mountain of time on with AJ, and some various other shit.

It didn’t stand out to me.

Baby Lee 05-30-2022 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by BigBeauford (Post 16313729)
[Some of these bits are brutally unfunny.

Oh, c'mon

Handoff!!
What?!?!

might be the hardest I've laughed in months.

And the Medusa punch-up job description communicated by facial expressions was pretty hilarious too

Curious if you're part of that Coen hating crowd, because this whole episode was pretty much a tribute to the comedy of the Coens.

BigBeauford 05-30-2022 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 16313947)
Oh, c'mon

Handoff!!
What?!?!

might be the hardest I've laughed in months.

And the Medusa punch-up job description communicated by facial expressions was pretty hilarious too

Curious if you're part of that Coen hating crowd, because this whole episode was pretty much a tribute to the comedy of the Coens.

"She more of a Yeahhhhh, not a uh-huh"....

I love the Coens Brothers.

I watched this because it was "hitman goes to acting school, hijinks ensue". Now I have to watch side characters I don't give a shit about, and every time Barry is on the screen, you aren't allowed to enjoy it.

Coochie liquor 05-30-2022 09:22 AM

I don’t remember who recommended Queen of the South, but god damn that shit is FIRE. Literally kicks into high gear from the beginning and it hasn’t let up yet. Almost done with season 1. Show is awesome. Big up yuhself, whoever recommended it to me!

Baby Lee 05-30-2022 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by BigBeauford (Post 16313986)
"She more of a Yeahhhhh, not a uh-huh"....

I love the Coens Brothers.

I watched this because it was "hitman goes to acting school, hijinks ensue". Now I have to watch side characters I don't give a shit about, and every time Barry is on the screen, you aren't allowed to enjoy it.

See, I enjoy the industry satire at least as much.

And the incessant inventiveness of the deus ex machina around everything, showing the arbitrariness of the universe.

And people being pulled to better avenues in their life, then succumbing to their base nature. [Hank with the Beignet store, Fuches with the hot chicks with goats constantly swooning over him].

BigBeauford 05-30-2022 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 16314003)
See, I enjoy the industry satire at least as much.

And the incessant inventiveness of the deus ex machina around everything, showing the arbitrariness of the universe.

And people being pulled to better avenues in their life, then succumbing to their base nature. [Hank with the Beignet store, Fuches with the hot chicks with goats constantly swooning over him].

I know you are a sucker for the industry satire (see Bojack Horseman). I just can't help like feeling Rian Johnson got ahold of my beloved show and made changes I don't like.

Pepe Silvia 05-30-2022 10:37 AM

That chick doing the uh huh and yeah yeah is Beck Bennett’s wife. She is quite attractive.

Baby Lee 05-30-2022 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by BigBeauford (Post 16314007)
I know you are a sucker for the industry satire (see Bojack Horseman). I just can't help like feeling Rian Johnson got ahold of my beloved show and made changes I don't like.

I'm more a sucker for efficient and biting satire, and snappy lines with a good comedic ear, . . . It just so happens that often the best satirists and line-puncher-uppers are in 'the industry' so their most biting and snappy stuff comes from personal experience.

Kind of like how Hal Needham films had the best stunt work.

Pepe Silvia 05-30-2022 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by BigBeauford (Post 16313986)
"She more of a Yeahhhhh, not a uh-huh"....

I love the Coens Brothers.

I watched this because it was "hitman goes to acting school, hijinks ensue". Now I have to watch side characters I don't give a shit about, and every time Barry is on the screen, you aren't allowed to enjoy it.

Just relax and have a Beignet by Mitch. ;)


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