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htismaqe 12-28-2020 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 15428509)
So why bring up "weapons" if wins and losses and strength of schedule don't count?

I agree.

CasselGotPeedOn 12-28-2020 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 15428481)
You don’t have to go very far around the Internet to find people who trash the guy. Heck, just look at some of the insane responses on Mahomes’ Twitter account when he writes something completely harmless.

You need to learn what a troll is

Coogs 12-28-2020 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by emaw1979 (Post 15428210)
After yesterday's performance by both QB's it's Rodgers to lose at this point. Rodgers will play next week in a must-win game and Mahomes won't.

I think Mahomes is more valuable to his team because of the offense both teams run and the line but Rodgers has had a better statistical season and recentism gives Rodgers a big advantage. The Rodgers absolute stinker was so long ago that you really have to dig for it where Mahomes has had some below average games by his standards recently.


Last week for Rodgers?


And the last 8 games, Mahomes was/is on a 5700 yard, 44 TD pace. Below average? :shrug:

Best22 12-28-2020 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 15428372)
I don't really know why Chiefs fans won't give Rodgers his due. He's having one of the best years for a QB...ever. Not that Mahomes is bad, he isn't, but Rodgers doesn't even have the weapons the Chiefs do. The Chiefs have the fastest WR in the history of football. They have the best tight end in the history of football. They have the best offensive scheme mind in the history of football.

Everyone acts like Rodgers couldn't play behind our line. It isn't like we have the worst line in football. Guys like Mahomes who hold onto the ball and then run around to make plays don't do offensive lines any favors, either. I wouldn't have it any other way but it's the truth. Rodgers can still scramble a little bit, and manipulate the pocket to create angles even at 37. He wouldn't just be a sitting duck like Brady if he was behind our line.

To play devils advocate, part of me thinks Mahomes wouldn't be quite as good without Andy Reid. This Andy Reid system is amazing. Just look at the history of Reid's QBs. They aren't great but he routinely makes them look better. He damn near dragged Donovan McNabb to the HOF. He made Alex Smith put up HOF numbers in 2018. He finally gets an elite QB in Mahomes and promptly wins the Super Bowl.

Alex Smith never puts up “HOF” numbers (26TD?) in 2017* if he didn’t have Mahomes breathing down his neck. By mid season fans wanted him benched.

Mahomes made Reid a better, more aggressive coach. Our offense isn’t lethargic, we don’t take 40 minutes to run a 2 minute drill. Reid went from a sub .500 playoff coach to an .800 playoff coach with Mahomes. Pat put Reid in the HOF

Reid’s great system produced that magnificent 15 touchdown season by Alex Smith, with more WR screens than a college offense. That anemic offense is what forced Reid to trade up 17 spots to draft the QBOTF.

Back in Philly Reid had a reputation of being carried by his defenses. With the Chiefs, they called him a choker. Reid’s system will get you about 17 points at home if you play like crap, which is usually what we got in January until #15 came along

Bearcat 12-28-2020 11:51 AM

Posted this in another thread last night, but in the category of needing your best player to play his best, I looked at each of their top 5 games. Had to use the Bears as the Packers' 5th game.

Prior to last night, Rodgers was around 63%, but besides that and yardage, it's really damn close. Mahomes had one really bad quarter in all of that (and still almost threw for 400 yards), while Rodgers has the TB game.

Of course, the more meaningless games against shit opponents will still count towards the vote, but these games are the true mark of 'value', IMO. The Chiefs and Packers don't need their HoF QBs to beat most of the teams they play, obviously.


Code:

Comp        Att        Yards        TD        Int
31        42        385        4        0
21        26        225        2        0
37        49        462        3        0
24        34        393        2        3
26        47        254        3        0

139        198        1719        14        3
        0.70%        343.8/g        2.8        0.6
Record: 5-0                               
Opp: 52-22 (.703)                               
                               
Comp        Att        Yards        TD        Int
21        32        283        3        0
16        35        160        0        2
27        38        311        3        1
21        29        211        4        1
21        25        214        4        1

106        159        1179        14        4
        0.67%        235/g  2.8        0.8
Record: 3-2                               
Opp: 49-26 (.653)


htismaqe 12-28-2020 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 15428698)
Posted this in another thread last night, but in the category of needing your best player to play his best, I looked at each of their top 5 games, assuming Rodgers ends up around ~200 yards passing tonight. Had to use the Bears as the Packers' 5th game.

Prior last night, Rodgers was around 63%, but besides that and yardage, it's really damn close. Mahomes had one really bad quarter in all of that (and still almost threw for 400 yards), while Rodgers has the TB game.

Of course, the more meaningless games against shit opponents will still count towards the vote, but these games are the true mark of 'value', IMO. The Chiefs and Packers don't need their HoF QBs to beat most of the teams they play, obviously.


Code:

Comp        Att        Yards        TD        Int
31        42        385        4        0
21        26        225        2        0
37        49        462        3        0
24        34        393        2        3
26        47        254        3        0

139        198        1719        14        3
        0.70%        343.8/g        2.8        0.6
Record: 5-0                               
Opp: 52-22 (.703)                               
                               
Comp        Att        Yards        TD        Int
21        32        283        3        0
16        35        160        0        2
27        38        311        3        1
21        29        211        4        1
21        25        214        4        1

106        159        1179        14        4
        0.67%        235/g  2.8        0.8
Record: 3-2                               
Opp: 49-26 (.653)


Good stuff.

Chris Meck 12-28-2020 12:35 PM

It'll be Rodgers, and it should be.

I'm totally fine with that, and perfectly happy to trade that for the SB MVP again.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 12-28-2020 12:40 PM

Betting sites now have Rodgers as the favorite and I agree

DRM08 12-28-2020 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 15428805)
It'll be Rodgers, and it should be.

I'm totally fine with that, and perfectly happy to trade that for the SB MVP again.

Regular season MVP sure seems like a bad luck charm for winning the Super Bowl through the years. Guess we shall see if Rodgers can pull off both of them.

KChiefs1 12-28-2020 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 15427956)
Would be pretty surprised if Rodgers does not get the award. 44 TD & 5 INT is extremely impressive. But the regular season MVP is almost like a jinx for winning a Super Bowl. Guess we will see if he can break that trend.


Agreed

KChiefs1 12-28-2020 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 15428306)
Mahomes performance against New Orleans was as impressive QB play as you will see.

But the MVP award is heavily stat based and KC has taken its foot off the gas too often in the last few weeks.


It’s mostly stat based.

If Rodgers plays vs the Bears & Mahomes sits...it’s a given that Rodgers wins.

emaw1979 12-28-2020 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 15428862)
It’s mostly stat based.

If Rodgers plays vs the Bears & Mahomes sits...it’s a given that Rodgers wins.

It would take a Bucc's level performance for him to lose it now IMO. The Bears have a playoff spot to play for so it's possible I suppose.

eDave 12-28-2020 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 15428841)
Regular season MVP sure seems like a bad luck charm for winning the Super Bowl through the years. Guess we shall see if Rodgers can pull off both of them.

Maybe Pat was trying to play his way out of contention yesterday. :)

MahomesMagic 12-28-2020 01:09 PM

We have the best record in the NFL and in franchise history but KC can play the underdog role well. I would like to see playoff shock and awe to remind them who we have.

Coogs 12-28-2020 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by eDave (Post 15428886)
Maybe Pat was trying to play his way out of contention yesterday. :)

Down 4 with under four minutes to play, Mahomes takes the team down the field for the game winning TD. Throws for 278 with 2 TD's and 1 INT.

eDave 12-28-2020 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 15428894)
Down 4 with under four minutes to play, Mahomes takes the team down the field for the game winning TD. Throws for 278 with 2 TD's and 1 INT.

Still have to win the game.

NEOM 12-28-2020 01:17 PM

There is a chance that GB ****s it up but LeFleur and Rodgers know how important for them the #1 spot is, having all games played in GB under yesterday's condtion would gave them a huge advantage.

Coogs 12-28-2020 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by eDave (Post 15428902)
Still have to win the game.


We did.

DRM08 12-28-2020 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by NEOM (Post 15428903)
There is a chance that GB ****s it up but LeFleur and Rodgers know how important for them the #1 spot is, having all games played in GB under yesterday's condtion would gave them a huge advantage.

Not against Brady, the best cold weather QB ever. Now maybe some of Brady’s teammates would have trouble with it.

NEOM 12-28-2020 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 15428956)
Not against Brady, the best cold weather QB ever. Now maybe some of Brady’s teammates would have trouble with it.

I considered Tampa as the strongest team in the NFC but Arians and Brady don’t really seem to align much, I still see them ahead of the Saints because I don’t see Brees being able to overcome the obstacles and beat Green Bay at their own turf, though I have the feeling in the end neither KC or Green Bay will be in the SB.

MahomesMagic 12-28-2020 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by NEOM (Post 15429085)
I considered Tampa as the strongest team in the NFC but Arians and Brady don’t really seem to align much, I still see them ahead of the Saints because I don’t see Brees being able to overcome the obstacles and beat Green Bay at their own turf, though I have the feeling in the end neither KC or Green Bay will be in the SB.

Stop wasting time telling us. Go to the casino and bet that.

carcosa 12-28-2020 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by NEOM (Post 15429085)
I considered Tampa as the strongest team in the NFC but Arians and Brady don’t really seem to align much, I still see them ahead of the Saints because I don’t see Brees being able to overcome the obstacles and beat Green Bay at their own turf, though I have the feeling in the end neither KC or Green Bay will be in the SB.

cool feeling bro

DRM08 12-28-2020 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by NEOM (Post 15429085)
I considered Tampa as the strongest team in the NFC but Arians and Brady don’t really seem to align much, I still see them ahead of the Saints because I don’t see Brees being able to overcome the obstacles and beat Green Bay at their own turf, though I have the feeling in the end neither KC or Green Bay will be in the SB.

Brees is pretty screwed in the cold weather. I would not bet against Russell Wilson on the other hand. Seahawks gave the Packers a very strong run for their money at Lambeau in the playoffs last year.

Hayneplane 12-28-2020 03:31 PM

The Seahawks D is improving at the right time of the season and with Wilson at QB they will be a tough game for anyone in the NFC.

Packers with home field advantage throughout look like the worthy favourites to be the NFC rep in the Super Bowl.

KingPriest2 12-28-2020 03:55 PM

Matthew Blair

Cullen Thomas

H2H
Houston, NO, TB , ATL Car

PM
141-217 66.3%
AR
107-163 65.3%

PN
1577. 315.4
AR
1196. 239.2

PH
15 TDs. 1 InT.
AR
11 TDs. 2 Ints

PH
9 sacks.
AR
11 sacks

PH
15 car. 92 TDs. 0 TD 28.6. Points 143
AR
10 car 57 yards 1 TD 27.2 points 136

PH.
1669 ty. 333.8. 15 TDs
AR
1253. Ty 250.6. 12 TDs

Playoff teams

PH 5-0. All on road. Baltimore , Buffalo, TB, Miami, N0
AR. 3-2. Home Chicago Tenn. 2-0
1-2 road NO win. Loss TB Indy

PH
135-183 74.3%
AR
106-159 66.7%

Ph
1719 yards 343.8
AR
1196. 239.2

PH
14 TDs 3 INT
AR
14 TD. 4 Infv

Ph
10 sacks
AR
7 sacks

PH
30. Car 136. 1 TD
AR
12. Car 65. 0 TD

Ph
152 points 30.2
AR
149 points 29.8

PH
1852 yards. 370.4. 15rds
AR
1261. 252.2. 14 TDs

Get real. Mahomes performed at MVP levels against a playoff teams unlike AR

You can’t dismiss Mahomes performed better against common teams

5-0 playoff teams on the road

Rodgers 1-2 on the road against playoff teams

Mahomes 5-0 common teams

Rodgers 4–1 with less then MVP stats

So It’s ok for Rodgers not to perform like a MVP against playoff teams?

Megatron96 12-28-2020 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Hayneplane (Post 15429236)
The Seahawks D is improving at the right time of the season and with Wilson at QB they will be a tough game for anyone in the NFC.

Still not sold on SEA's defense being "much improved."

What's clear is that they've played five games in a row against some pretty bad offenses.

Gary Cooper 12-28-2020 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Hayneplane (Post 15429236)
The Seahawks D is improving at the right time of the season and with Wilson at QB they will be a tough game for anyone in the NFC.

Packers with home field advantage throughout look like the worthy favourites to be the NFC rep in the Super Bowl.

They're a great home team in the playoffs. On the road, different story.

NEOM 12-29-2020 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 15429226)
Brees is pretty screwed in the cold weather. I would not bet against Russell Wilson on the other hand. Seahawks gave the Packers a very strong run for their money at Lambeau in the playoffs last year.

Sure, again.. I dont expect the Packers to reach the SB. Their team is not that strong, I hope I'm wrong. Mahomes vs. Rodgers would be epic.

RaidersOftheCellar 12-29-2020 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by NEOM (Post 15430510)
Sure, again.. I dont expect the Packers to reach the SB. Their team is not that strong, I hope I'm wrong. Mahomes vs. Rodgers would be epic.

If you think NO is stronger, you’re delusional.

NEOM 12-29-2020 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 15430527)
If you think NO is stronger, you’re delusional.

No, but the Bucs might upset the Packers.

KChiefs1 12-29-2020 11:56 AM

Cowherd just ranked his MVP favorites.

1. Rodgers

>>>Big gap<<<

2. Allen
3. Mahomes

Last 4 games:
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...88bce64070.jpg

Last 7 games:
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...cec6298490.jpg

Shaid 12-29-2020 12:07 PM

Let's just toss out level of competition.

Dunerdr 12-29-2020 12:08 PM

I hope Pat doesnt win it and his ****ing pissed come game time about it.

DRM08 12-29-2020 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 15431052)
Cowherd just ranked his MVP favorites.

1. Rodgers

>>>Big gap<<<

2. Allen
3. Mahomes

Last 4 games:
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...88bce64070.jpg

Last 7 games:
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...cec6298490.jpg


Excellent. This is exactly the kind of stuff that Mahomes can use as fuel for the playoffs.

Red Dawg 12-29-2020 12:11 PM

Who cares. I would give it to Rogers at this point even though we have had a tougher schedule and one loss. The Ward is numbers driven mostly and he has better numbers.

ChiTown 12-29-2020 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 15431052)
Cowherd just ranked his MVP favorites.

1. Rodgers

>>>Big gap<<<

2. Allen
3. Mahomes

Last 4 games:
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...88bce64070.jpg

Last 7 games:
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...cec6298490.jpg

So MVP = Last 4 or 7 games (depending upon who you want to frame your talking point around) and not the entire body of work for the season. Got it.....

hawkchief 12-29-2020 12:23 PM

Cowherd and Bayless should just jump in an AIDS fire and go away. Just awful at what they do.

KChiefs1 12-29-2020 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by hawkchief (Post 15431115)
Cowherd and Bayless should just jump in an AIDS fire and go away. Just awful at what they do.

It's laughable & it's like they both believe what they are saying. :)

KC_Connection 12-29-2020 02:04 PM

Mahomes has become the LeBron of the NFL for these hot take artists. Everyone knows he's the best player in the league but they look for ways to diminish his accomplishments and find ways to credit others because it makes for better TV.

It's a sign of respect more than anything.

DRM08 12-29-2020 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 15431316)
Mahomes has become the LeBron of the NFL for these hot take artists. Everyone knows he's the best player in the league but they look for ways to diminish his accomplishments and find ways to credit others because it makes for better TV.

It's a sign of respect more than anything.

Too early for that type of comparison. I think a lot of people view him as just one of many talented young QB’s in the league. He will need to pile up another couple rings to really separate himself from the pack. Got a pretty solid chance to get a ring this year, and we will see if his team can get the job done.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 12-29-2020 02:28 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Patrick Mahomes has 16 dropped interceptions this season, an <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFL?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFL</a> record<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a> <a href="https://t.co/6qufciyHAQ">pic.twitter.com/6qufciyHAQ</a></p>&mdash; FootBasket.com (@Foot_Basket) <a href="https://twitter.com/Foot_Basket/status/1343964007003287553?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 29, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

ChiTown 12-29-2020 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 15431391)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Patrick Mahomes has 16 dropped interceptions this season, an <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFL?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFL</a> record<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a> <a href="https://t.co/6qufciyHAQ">pic.twitter.com/6qufciyHAQ</a></p>&mdash; FootBasket.com (@Foot_Basket) <a href="https://twitter.com/Foot_Basket/status/1343964007003287553?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 29, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

LMAOLMAOLMAO - Over half of those were never catchable. If it touched a defenders hands it's apparently supposed to be intercepted. Good stuff...

MahomesMagic 12-29-2020 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 15431391)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Patrick Mahomes has 16 dropped interceptions this season, an <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFL?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFL</a> record<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a> <a href="https://t.co/6qufciyHAQ">pic.twitter.com/6qufciyHAQ</a></p>&mdash; FootBasket.com (@Foot_Basket) <a href="https://twitter.com/Foot_Basket/status/1343964007003287553?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 29, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Yeah, there is a reason a lot of these guys are playing defensive back and not WR.

:thumb:

scho63 12-29-2020 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hayneplane (Post 15429236)
The Seahawks D is improving at the right time of the season and with Wilson at QB they will be a tough game for anyone in the NFC.

Packers with home field advantage throughout look like the worthy favourites to be the NFC rep in the Super Bowl.

I think Seattle is overrated.

I see Tampa or Green Bay going to SB. Saints have a great D but I think Brees will limit them as he looks about 50% of his old self.

Bearcat 12-29-2020 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 15431405)
LMAOLMAOLMAO - Over half of those were never catchable. If it touched a defenders hands it's apparently supposed to be intercepted. Good stuff...

Yeah, no way that's an 'official' record given those examples.... the first legit one in the video is like 4 or 5 in.... and counting the "ruled down????" one as a pick shows how desperate they are to add to this list.... and another one wasn't dropped, it was called back by a penalty.

~3-5 that were legitimately, oh shit, he got lucky... and that includes the benefit of the doubt with a couple of diving defenders.

eDave 12-29-2020 03:42 PM

How many of those were free plays?

keg in kc 12-29-2020 03:47 PM

How can you not trust a source like (checks name) "foot basket".

OKchiefs 12-29-2020 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 15431405)
LMAOLMAOLMAO - Over half of those were never catchable. If it touched a defenders hands it's apparently supposed to be intercepted. Good stuff...

It’s already been debunked. Someone said it was more like 7 actual dropped interceptions for the season.

eDave 12-29-2020 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 15431621)
How can you not trust a source like (checks name) "foot basket".

They stole it from a comment in that Mahome's on top of the mountain tweet. Someone said it in there and these guys just ran with it.

Mecca 12-29-2020 03:54 PM

Saying a ball that rolled into a dudes leg is a dropped INT is hilarious.

hawkchief 12-29-2020 03:54 PM

Most of those could have just as easily been considered "completions" as "interceptions" if that's the way they're looking at it.

KC_Connection 12-29-2020 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 15431338)
Too early for that type of comparison. I think a lot of people view him as just one of many talented young QB’s in the league. He will need to pile up another couple rings to really separate himself from the pack. Got a pretty solid chance to get a ring this year, and we will see if his team can get the job done.

I’m not literally saying he is LeBron James. I’m saying that he is treated by these hot take shows in a similar vein to him.

Mahomes is off to the best three year start for a QB in NFL history and it isn’t even close. Endlessly talking about how good he is doesn’t make for good TV. Finding rivals for him does.

pugsnotdrugs19 12-29-2020 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 15431391)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Patrick Mahomes has 16 dropped interceptions this season, an <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFL?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFL</a> record<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a> <a href="https://t.co/6qufciyHAQ">pic.twitter.com/6qufciyHAQ</a></p>&mdash; FootBasket.com (@Foot_Basket) <a href="https://twitter.com/Foot_Basket/status/1343964007003287553?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 29, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This is the kind of shit Mahomes is going to see scrolling through Twitter, and then he’s just going to set everyone on fire in the playoffs.

Mecca 12-29-2020 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 15431649)
I’m not literally saying he is LeBron James. I’m saying that he is treated by these hot take shows in a similar vein to him.

Mahomes is off to the best three year start for a QB in NFL history and it isn’t even close. Endlessly talking about how good he is doesn’t make for good TV. Finding rivals for him does.

They badly want him to have a rival and him playing in KC is part of it too, if he was doing this for the Giants they'd be sucking him off much more.

KChiefs1 12-29-2020 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 15431391)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Patrick Mahomes has 16 dropped interceptions this season, an <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFL?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFL</a> record<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a> <a href="https://t.co/6qufciyHAQ">pic.twitter.com/6qufciyHAQ</a></p>&mdash; FootBasket.com (@Foot_Basket) <a href="https://twitter.com/Foot_Basket/status/1343964007003287553?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 29, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The guy just keeps setting records! :clap:

KChiefs1 12-29-2020 04:17 PM

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mr. tegu 12-29-2020 04:36 PM

Patrick Mahomes is now the overwhelming NFL MVP favorite
 
Anyone know a site that shows passing pressure percentage by game? I would be curious to see each players and team performance around a certain number, like perhaps 25% or higher, to help show the circumstances and results when under pressure.

scho63 12-30-2020 06:42 AM

Out of those "dropped" INT's, about 7 were true drops. Some would have needed a spectacular play and a few others were not even real.

KChiefs1 12-30-2020 10:54 AM

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BWillie 12-30-2020 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 15431391)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Patrick Mahomes has 16 dropped interceptions this season, an <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFL?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFL</a> record<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a> <a href="https://t.co/6qufciyHAQ">pic.twitter.com/6qufciyHAQ</a></p>&mdash; FootBasket.com (@Foot_Basket) <a href="https://twitter.com/Foot_Basket/status/1343964007003287553?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 29, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Thats cuz he throws so hard defender aint ready for it!!!!

and stuff

diqlix 12-30-2020 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 15431391)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Patrick Mahomes has 16 dropped interceptions this season, an <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFL?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFL</a> record<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a> <a href="https://t.co/6qufciyHAQ">pic.twitter.com/6qufciyHAQ</a></p>&mdash; FootBasket.com (@Foot_Basket) <a href="https://twitter.com/Foot_Basket/status/1343964007003287553?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 29, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Wow.

I mean, clearly he’s a “playoff Qb” on a “playoff team” and therefore tries to throw INT’s in the regular season :)

For those that don’t know, im just teasing a poster who claims the Chiefs are a playoff team, not a regular season team, and therefore don’t try.

All joking aside, that video is wow. People have Allen so much crap for doing the same thing, but even he didn’t throw so many INT-ready balls.

MahomesMagic 12-30-2020 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by daquix (Post 15433365)
Wow.

I mean, clearly he’s a “playoff Qb” on a “playoff team” and therefore tries to throw INT’s in the regular season :)

Yeah, not like Allen against Arizona where unlike this video he threw it right to the other team 4 times and another play when getting pulled to the ground lofted the ball to nobody in particular in the field of play.

Gravedigger 12-30-2020 04:16 PM

I'd have to give it to Rodgers, especially since he's playing this weekend. If the Bears win, then we can have the conversation, but if Rodgers does what Rodgers has been doing, then it'll be hard not to give it to him. You can't win it every year, and Patrick will use that as a chip on his shoulder especially when he gets to be the #2 player in the NFL Top 100 this year, we want to keep him hungry. This isn't like Brees and Mahomes from a couple years ago where Patrick deserved it more than Brees, it was just for nostalgia that Brees would've gotten it over Mahomes, but this year the shoe is on the other foot. Super Bowl > MVP, and if we get GB vs KC in Tampa, then Patrick can outplay him then to show they got it wrong.

St. Patty's Fire 12-30-2020 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 15432424)
Out of those "dropped" INT's, about 7 were true drops. Some would have needed a spectacular play and a few others were not even real.

half those throws hit the ground before it even gets to the defender

really smooth brain shit

Megatron96 12-30-2020 04:21 PM

Outside the box:

Travis Kelce is actually the most qualified candidate for MVP. He hasn't had a single bad game. And he's had several great games. Setting a record for TEs. Maybe more than one (recpts and yards)?

No offensive player has been as good/great consistently as Travis Kelce in 2020.

diqlix 12-30-2020 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 15433372)
Yeah, not like Allen against Arizona where unlike this video he threw it right to the other team 4 times and another play when getting pulled to the ground lofted the ball to nobody in particular in the field of play.

Another “playoff QB” I guess :)

New World Order 12-30-2020 04:34 PM

Really only a handful of those throws should have been picked.

The majority of them were tough catches, even for receivers.

diqlix 12-30-2020 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 15433427)
Really only a handful of those throws should have been picked.

The majority of them were tough catches, even for receivers.

Either way, they were no where near the intended target.

St. Patty's Fire 12-30-2020 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by daquix (Post 15433435)
Either way, they were no where near the intended target.

you seem like someone that needs to get laid very badly

trolling other team boards is what no pussy does to a mfer i guess

Bearcat 12-30-2020 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by daquix (Post 15433365)
Wow.

I mean, clearly he’s a “playoff Qb” on a “playoff team” and therefore tries to throw INT’s in the regular season :)

For those that don’t know, im just teasing a poster who claims the Chiefs are a playoff team, not a regular season team, and therefore don’t try.

All joking aside, that video is wow. People have Allen so much crap for doing the same thing, but even he didn’t throw so many INT-ready balls.

Don't know what to tell you... maybe try reading that post again, but slower, plus the conversation that took place. You obviously didn't even try to comprehend it the first time, since the one dumb question you asked was answered in like the 3rd sentence, and since you're clearly making up things about it now ("and therefore don't try").

If you've watched sports at all, it's pretty easy to see the difference between a team that plays with urgency and when that same team doesn't... when they're digging deep into the playbook or trying new things, or playing vanilla.

I have yet to see Mahomes dive head first into defenders this season like he did multiple times during the Super Bowl. I have seen him and the offense turn it up several notches when they really need to score, as opposed to playing balls-to-the-wall for four quarters.

That's really not a difficult concept, is it?

It's kind of like the difference between you trying to comprehend what's being said and taking the lazy way out to purposefully(?) be dense about it.

It's one thing to not agree with it. That's fine. It's really not a hard concept to comprehend though.

MahomesMagic 12-30-2020 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by daquix (Post 15433394)
Another “playoff QB” I guess :)

Yes, your playoff QB had ZERO TD passes in his playoff appearance against the same team that Mahomes rattled off 7 straight TD drives on last playoffs.

After he caught a TD pass on a cool gimmick play by Daboll he was kept out of the end zone the rest of the day.

ROFL

MIAdragon 12-30-2020 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by daquix (Post 15433365)
Wow.

I mean, clearly he’s a “playoff Qb” on a “playoff team” and therefore tries to throw INT’s in the regular season :)

For those that don’t know, im just teasing a poster who claims the Chiefs are a playoff team, not a regular season team, and therefore don’t try.

All joking aside, that video is wow. People have Allen so much crap for doing the same thing, but even he didn’t throw so many INT-ready balls.

When your boy wins shit, come back and talk.

New World Order 12-30-2020 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daquix (Post 15433365)
Wow.

I mean, clearly he’s a “playoff Qb” on a “playoff team” and therefore tries to throw INT’s in the regular season :)

For those that don’t know, im just teasing a poster who claims the Chiefs are a playoff team, not a regular season team, and therefore don’t try.

All joking aside, that video is wow. People have Allen so much crap for doing the same thing, but even he didn’t throw so many INT-ready balls.

I feel like this is a Knowmo mult

Bearcat 12-30-2020 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 15433528)
I feel like this is a Knowmo mult

They're posting in different parts of the country (at least since the last time Knowmo posted).

FloridaMan88 12-30-2020 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daquix (Post 15433365)
All joking aside, that video is wow. People have Allen so much crap for doing the same thing, but even he didn’t throw so many INT-ready balls.

Alert us when Josh Allen doesn’t shit all over himself in the postseason and wins a playoff game.

MahomesMagic 12-30-2020 06:27 PM

Lamar Jackson and Ravens fans were never this insane and they went 14-2 and Lamar won MVP.

Amazing how Buffalo fans want us to bow down to them and they haven't won a playoff game in 25 years. Done nothing but lose.

They get one year where the Patriots have to rebuild and the Jets fall apart and they're here to tell us they have arrived?

Bearcat 12-30-2020 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 15433603)
Lamar Jackson and Ravens fans were never this insane and they went 14-2 and Lamar won MVP.

Amazing how Buffalo fans want us to bow down to them and they haven't won a playoff game in 25 years. Done nothing but lose.

They get one year where the Patriots have to rebuild and the Jets fall apart and they're here to tell us they have arrived?

I have serious doubts this guy has been a Bills fan very long (hell, if at all)... hard to believe anyone who's lived that history over the past 30 years while having just a very basic history of the Chiefs ("lurked here for years") would just come here to bait people with "look at what Cowherd is saying today about the last 4 games" and digging for any Allen/Mahomes comparisons while calling us arrogant, while not have a basic understanding (much less empathy) that we as Chiefs fans were in the exact same place as fans just two seasons ago.

It's much more reminiscent of the Rams fans who completely came out of the woodwork a couple decades ago, acting like 2018 Patriots fans, than someone who appreciates the history of their own franchise (much less the Chiefs').

Two people live in neighboring tents in an alley for years and one is finally able to get their own place... the other guy doesn't walk into their living room and shit on that guy's carpet.

diqlix 12-30-2020 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 15433484)
Don't know what to tell you... maybe try reading that post again, but slower, plus the conversation that took place. You obviously didn't even try to comprehend it the first time, since the one dumb question you asked was answered in like the 3rd sentence, and since you're clearly making up things about it now ("and therefore don't try").

If you've watched sports at all, it's pretty easy to see the difference between a team that plays with urgency and when that same team doesn't... when they're digging deep into the playbook or trying new things, or playing vanilla.

I have yet to see Mahomes dive head first into defenders this season like he did multiple times during the Super Bowl. I have seen him and the offense turn it up several notches when they really need to score, as opposed to playing balls-to-the-wall for four quarters.

That's really not a difficult concept, is it?

It's kind of like the difference between you trying to comprehend what's being said and taking the lazy way out to purposefully(?) be dense about it.

It's one thing to not agree with it. That's fine. It's really not a hard concept to comprehend though.

Hope you’re having a good night Bearcat.

I don’t agree that the Chiefs aren’t giving it there all.

You can tell the frustration on Pats face when he has struggled recently.

diqlix 12-30-2020 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 15433603)
Lamar Jackson and Ravens fans were never this insane and they went 14-2 and Lamar won MVP.

Amazing how Buffalo fans want us to bow down to them and they haven't won a playoff game in 25 years. Done nothing but lose.

They get one year where the Patriots have to rebuild and the Jets fall apart and they're here to tell us they have arrived?

It’s hard to take you seriously now that I know you’re not even taken seriously by Chiefs fans.

Thanks to the board member that pointed out that you became a Chiefs “fan” only after Mahomes joined.

FloridaMan88 12-30-2020 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by daquix (Post 15433672)
Hope you’re having a good night Bearcat.

I don’t agree that the Chiefs aren’t giving it there all.

You can tell the frustration on Pats face when he has struggled recently.

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