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Iowanian 12-26-2016 11:05 PM

My first grader was jumping up and down in my living room last night, cheering for hill to score...in a shiny new 10 jersey.

He can cheer for that player on the field and learn how to treat women from his dad, uncles and grandfathers.

SAUTO 12-26-2016 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 12644278)
My first grader was jumping up and down in my living room last night, cheering for hill to score...in a shiny new 10 jersey.

He can cheer for that player on the field and learn how to treat women from his dad, uncles and grandfathers.

Yep, we'll put.

Why Not? 12-26-2016 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 12644278)
My first grader was jumping up and down in my living room last night, cheering for hill to score...in a shiny new 10 jersey.

He can cheer for that player on the field and learn how to treat women from his dad, uncles and grandfathers.


Amen

suzzer99 12-26-2016 11:56 PM

I had a girlfriend that physically attacked me twice during fights. Of course we were both drunk each time. The first time I was so shocked I just tried to pin her down as she bit, scratched, punched and kicked me. Didn't help that she's freakishly strong. We were in a motel room and the cops came. That was fun. The second time I was a little more mentally prepared for it, and I actually shoved her down a couple times as she came at me. The fight ended with her picking up a dumbbell, and me telling her if she hit me with that she would kill me. She slowly put it down as sanity returned to her eyes.

We almost didn't make it past that. I told her if that ever happens again we're done. It took months to get back to normal each time. We learned that we can't get drunk together, ever. So something good came out of it.

Another girl I got into a drunken fight at the Chiefs game at SD of all places. We got in a spat, so she ditched me for most of the second half, then claimed her cel phone was dead. I looked at it and it had 4 bars of battery life. I got so pissed I shoved the phone into her chest - reaching over her shoulder from behind. Apparently my hand lingered on her throat for a second or two. The cops came on that one too as we were driving out of the parking lot. Why they didn't give me a DUI I have no idea.

I blocked out the neck part. But of course she brought it up years later. I think she used it to turn her daughter against me like 8 years after it happened, and I'd been in her and the kid's life that whole time - largely supporting them. That woman could go to the Olympics for pushing buttons and enraging someone. I was still 100% in the wrong and it scares me that I got even a little bit physical with her - as I didn't think I was capable of something like that.

Anyway the point is, obviously no man should ever hit a woman under any circumstances, but to me anyway the level of culpability isn't always cut and dried. That's why the Ray Rice video was so shocking. He ambushed her and struck like a viper. Also he was a good 10 years older than Hill.

I'm willing to at least allow the possibility that someone as young as Hill, who didn't have the most stable upbringing, could be redeemable.

BryanBusby 12-27-2016 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by gonefishin53 (Post 12644224)
The prosecutor in Hill's domestic violence charge advised Chief's management that it would be best for all those involved with his case if he were allowed to pursue a career which he is well qualified for.

Should the Chiefs and the NFL tell the prosecutor to go **** herself and listen solely to your opinion? How about the victim? Do you think she would be better off in a homeless shelter along with Hill's kid because the only job you would let him do pays minimum wage?

I think the prosecutor knows a lot more about what best serves justice in this case than anyone at NFL headquarters or Chiefs management. And certainly more than some self righteous ideologue on a Chiefs message board.

**** off, shit wagon. If you had read my own posts, I had said he should be able to work.

Next time you go fishing, shove that fishing pole up your ass.

BlackOp 12-27-2016 12:55 AM

I dont care what Hill did two years ago...he was a ignorant child. He now has the proper support system around him and looks like he's putting effort into turning his life around. Funny how people blossom when they are taken out of shitty, destructive environments. If he was 32 and still punching women...it's a different story. Kids do stupid shit...without thinking about the long range ramifications. His past actions are just in the spotlight. We dont know his past..we only know ours..judge carefully.

ChiefsCountry 12-27-2016 06:46 AM

He was 21. That's not a child.

Ray Rice was 27.

KChiefs1 12-27-2016 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 12644278)
My first grader was jumping up and down in my living room last night, cheering for hill to score...in a shiny new 10 jersey.

He can cheer for that player on the field and learn how to treat women from his dad, uncles and grandfathers.



Rock on dude.



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ThaVirus 12-27-2016 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 12644377)
He was 21. That's not a child.

Ray Rice was 27.

They say a man's brain doesn't fully develop until his mid-20s.

Iowanian 12-27-2016 09:51 AM

No one should mistake anything I've said as support for hitting or abusing women.

If a boyfriend/husband were to ever assault one of my girls, I will feed them to Wu's Pigs.

KChiefs1 12-27-2016 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 12644468)
No one should mistake anything I've said as support for hitting or abusing women.



If a boyfriend/husband were to ever assault one of my girls, I will feed them to Wu's Pigs.



I didn't. What you posted is proper parenting.



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kccrow 12-27-2016 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 12644278)
My first grader was jumping up and down in my living room last night, cheering for hill to score...in a shiny new 10 jersey.

He can cheer for that player on the field and learn how to treat women from his dad, uncles and grandfathers.

Good way to think about it and is similar to what my wife said about it. I didn't support the pick even though I liked him as a football player. The incident really altered my opinion of him. My wife is a much more open person to giving people 2nd chances, so she helped me to lighten my stance. He may never have learned how to treat a woman from the men in his life growing up, but maybe the counseling, maturing, and letting his aggression out on the field will help him in life to remain a better human. That being said, he wouldn't have had to worry about playing football had it been my daughter he did it to.

stevieray 12-27-2016 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by philfree (Post 12643604)
To forgive is divine.

Amen, dude deserves a second chance.

...we all do at some point.

Hog's Gone Fishin 12-27-2016 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 12645393)
Amen, dude deserves a second chance.

...we all do at some point.

Well, as a Chief he hasn't choked , so let him roll!

Mr. Laz 12-27-2016 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 12644278)
My first grader was jumping up and down in my living room last night, cheering for hill to score...in a shiny new 10 jersey.

He can cheer for that player on the field and learn how to treat women from his dad, uncles and grandfathers.

Nobody should idolize a professional athlete for what they do on the field.

It's a game, there is NOTHING about real life on an NFL field.


If a player is a great person OFF the field, then we can talk.


JMO

Reerun_KC 12-27-2016 07:59 PM

Fastest most dynamic football player in the history of this team...

Dude is a freak.

Reerun_KC 12-27-2016 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12645399)
Nobody should idolize a professional athlete for what they do on the field.

It's a game, there is NOTHING about real life on an NFL field.


If a player is a great person OFF the field, then we can talk.


JMO

Great post!:clap:

KranzDictum 12-27-2016 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 12645400)
Fastest most dynamic football player in the history of this team...

Dude is a freak.

He reminds me of Tamarick Vanover, in multiple ways.

He totally abused us in the 1st quarter.

Pair him up with Joe Mixion and you guys will be punishing.

BlackOp 12-27-2016 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 12645400)
Fastest most dynamic football player in the history of this team...

Dude is a freak.

Just pisses me off...that Charles and Hill will likely never be on the field at the same time.

That would have been a nightmare...

The emergence of Hill has opened things up for Kelce...Maclin should start to see some one on ones more often too.

Hog's Gone Fishin 12-28-2016 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 12643481)
His girlfriend has forgiven him

He has paid his debt in the eyes of the law

According to Dorsey and Reid he is in counseling and has taken other steps to better himself

With all of that being true, my conscience is perfectly clear when I cheer for him on sundays


I just decided early on that she deserved it, so my mind is in a good frame to watch him play.

KChiefs1 12-28-2016 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 12645536)
Just pisses me off...that Charles and Hill will likely never be on the field at the same time.

That would have been a nightmare...

The emergence of Hill has opened things up for Kelce...Maclin should start to see some one on ones more often too.



I know!

Jamaal Charles
Tyreek Hill
Jeremy Maclin
Travis Kelce

Damn!




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CasselGotPeedOn 12-28-2016 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by KranzDictum (Post 12645516)
He reminds me of Tamarick Vanover, in multiple ways.

He totally abused us in the 1st quarter.

Pair him up with Joe Mixion and you guys will be punishing.

At least get the name right, you mouth breathing, waste of oxygen.

Pasta Little Brioni 12-28-2016 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 12208064)
Every single person here will cheer at the top of their lungs when this guy breaks a 105 yard return for a TD against the Donks.

This is still the best post in this thread...oh and both times he broke a big one on Denver, Chiefs fans went bananas.

Pasta Little Brioni 12-28-2016 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by KranzDictum (Post 12645516)
He reminds me of Tamarick Vanover, in multiple ways.

He totally abused us in the 1st quarter.

Pair him up with Joe Mixion and you guys will be punishing.

Told you your team and 1st round bust was pure shit...back in camp.

RealSNR 12-28-2016 11:11 AM

I changed my mind. Now I like Tyreek Hill.

I've never seen anybody rustle Knowmo's jimmies quite like Hill has

DC.chief 12-28-2016 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 12645930)
I know!

Jamaal Charles
Tyreek Hill
Jeremy Maclin
Travis Kelce

I feel like it's time we stop considering Maclin some great weapon at WR. Dude has 483 yards this season

Pablo 12-28-2016 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DC.chief (Post 12646283)
I feel like it's time we stop considering Maclin some great weapon at WR. Dude has 483 yards this season

It's like we have 2014 Dwayne Bowe back! Be excited dude.

Marcellus 12-28-2016 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by unlurking (Post 12644128)
To think that human beings can't have morals or ethics without a carrot/stick promise of the afterlife is rather disheartening. In fact, I find it rather offensive.

Well since you completely missed the point, then you are only causing yourself the disheartening and offense.

I didn't say you have to have faith to have morals etc..but I do think you are pretty ignorant if you want to talk about those things with other people and then want to be offended when religion is brought into the conversation.


But go ahead and enjoy being offended for no reason.

Marcellus 12-28-2016 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 12644448)
They say a man's brain doesn't fully develop until his mid-20s.

That explains a lot, there must be a shit ton of under 25 year olds on CP.

jjchieffan 12-28-2016 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 12646406)
That explains a lot, there must be a shit ton of under 25 year olds on CP.

Well duh! That became apparent when Chris Farley won greatest SNL performer of all time on here. I'm still shaking my head on that one. But the idea that their brains aren't fully functional yet explains a lot. Poor Billay. I don't know if he will ever have a fully functional brain. Are you over 25 Billay?

RealSNR 12-28-2016 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe (Post 12217064)
Outside The Lines is doing a story on this.

<script src="http://player.espn.com/player.js?pcode=1kNG061cgaoolOncv54OAO1ceO-I&width=576&height=324&externalId=espn:15459417"></script>

http://espn.go.com/espnradio/play?id=15461572

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Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe (Post 12643168)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Absence of video of his crime may have saved Tyreek Hill from being shunned completely by the NFL <a href="https://t.co/7SKB9D0wt9">https://t.co/7SKB9D0wt9</a></p>&mdash; ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) <a href="https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/813416873488502784">December 26, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe (Post 12644258)
So he beats the shit out of his girlfriend and then when the cops come to arrest him he tells them that the only reason they're arresting him is because the woman he beat up was white. :shake:


http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/...54/114/ad0.png

Pasta Little Brioni 12-28-2016 09:22 PM

He beat knowmos pussy up good

Pasta Little Brioni 12-28-2016 09:23 PM

Knowmo could see his season coming to an end as Hill broke free...suddenly the controller went flying and he slinked off to the basement grounded and humiliated

Pasta Little Brioni 12-28-2016 09:26 PM

Kind of funny Denver's record in close games COMPLETELY flipped this year without those calls only Manning gets...kind of like we said would happen before the season. More proof of what am absolute farce last season was.

philfree 12-29-2016 12:53 AM

The Cheetah

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C0sdE_IUoAAA4sm.jpg

KChiefs1 01-02-2017 01:38 PM

https://youtu.be/e-f4P9x-4Ek








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KChiefs1 01-02-2017 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by philfree (Post 12647102)



https://youtu.be/6uWFJfkx9EY







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KChiefs1 01-02-2017 01:43 PM

WTF!

https://youtu.be/IGThlnLZggE







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Rain Man 01-02-2017 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 12646021)
I changed my mind. Now I like Tyreek Hill.

I've never seen anybody rustle Knowmo's jimmies quite like Hill has

I find it a bit confusing that Broncos fans keep bringing up Tyreek Hill's past, but yet they say nothing about Justin Houston abusing Ty Sambrailo just a few weeks ago.

Chiefshrink 01-02-2017 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DC.chief (Post 12646283)
I feel like it's time we stop considering Maclin some great weapon at WR. Dude has 483 yards this season

Look for him to get a lot of looks and activity as defenses shift to Kelce and Hill.:hmmm:

KChiefs1 01-02-2017 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by philfree (Post 12647102)



https://youtu.be/s7TvR-ERDkI








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Chiefshrink 01-02-2017 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 12656420)
I find it a bit confusing that Broncos fans keep bringing up Tyreek Hill's past, but yet they say nothing about Justin Houston abusing Ty Sambrailo just a few weeks ago.

The reason why ? Because there is nothing like taking it to the House IN THEIR HOUSE, not once, not twice but 3 times in one game and then adding a cherry on top in your own house to boot the next time you play them !! 4 TDS by Hill just playing the Broncos alone say's you own them and definitely ride those Donkeys and HURTS THEM VERY DEEPLY !!:clap:ROFL:clap:ROFL

Donkey fans just expressing their future anxiety about what will be happening to them for at least these next 5 yrs.

unlurking 01-02-2017 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 12646403)
Well since you completely missed the point, then you are only causing yourself the disheartening and offense.

I didn't say you have to have faith to have morals etc..but I do think you are pretty ignorant if you want to talk about those things with other people and then want to be offended when religion is brought into the conversation.


But go ahead and enjoy being offended for no reason.

lolol!

I'll still keep thinking I'd rather have the 2 seed and a bye week as well. ;)

Chiefshrink 01-02-2017 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 12656422)
https://youtu.be/s7TvR-ERDkI








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You think Antonio would accept a 40yd dash challenge from Hill as an NFL promo marketing gig to promote this game even more ??? Would that be awesome or what ????

KChiefs1 01-05-2017 01:12 PM

Every day I find a new video on him.

https://youtu.be/SjphFF4DfVQ









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Bowser 01-05-2017 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 12661857)
Every day I find a new video on him.

https://youtu.be/SjphFF4DfVQ

Watch that with the audio muted. Christ. /grumpy old fart

KChiefs1 01-05-2017 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 12661877)
Watch that with the audio muted. Christ. /grumpy old fart



I agree...I wish an old guy would put some good music to these.




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KChiefs1 01-06-2017 06:45 PM

https://youtu.be/ar-Wr16YAlk









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KChiefs1 01-06-2017 07:01 PM

https://youtu.be/BcWFwmZuGp0









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KChiefs1 01-06-2017 07:03 PM

One thing that I find interesting & hasn't been mentioned yet is....

Tyreek scored the first & last TD's of the 2016 season.


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KChiefs1 01-06-2017 07:07 PM

https://youtu.be/cQD_EPiAgN4









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KChiefs1 01-06-2017 07:08 PM

https://youtu.be/sxyexifAEow








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KChiefs1 01-06-2017 07:10 PM

https://youtu.be/FHz4Pzv-UjI









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hometeam 01-06-2017 07:12 PM

Notice how when he is running he does like a little open hand, arm out, shenanigan dance? High school all the way to the Chiefs.

beach tribe 01-06-2017 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 12656444)
You think Antonio would accept a 40yd dash challenge from Hill as an NFL promo marketing gig to promote this game even more ??? Would that be awesome or what ????

Ha! Please.

There is not a player in the league who wants to run this dude.

He's faster than his 40 and that's Fn insane.

I can't even think of another player who has jets like him.

Still cracks me up when I think of Clay's expert prognostication of ByeReek.

Rain Man 01-06-2017 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 12664398)


All this time I've been praising Dorsey for the pick and I was wrong. Kudoes to Senior Airman Austin King for making this pick.

KChiefs1 01-06-2017 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by hometeam (Post 12664405)
Notice how when he is running he does like a little open hand, arm out, shenanigan dance? High school all the way to the Chiefs.



He is a bundle of energy.



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KChiefs1 01-06-2017 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 12664447)
All this time I've been praising Dorsey for the pick and I was wrong. Kudoes to Senior Airman Austin King for making this pick.



Thank you for your service.




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KChiefs1 01-08-2017 11:05 AM

Still waiting for the ultimate Tyreek video...maybe after the Super Bowl?

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Quesadilla Joe 01-10-2017 06:45 PM

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The Tyreek Hill Conundrum: How can we cheer for a player with such a heinous past?

On Dec. 8 at Arrowhead Stadium, Tyreek Hill caught a 36-yard touchdown pass from Alex Smith and returned a punt 78 yards for another score as the Chiefs beat the Raiders 21–13 in Week 14’s nationally televised Thursday Night Football game. The latter score clinched the win, putting Kansas City in control of the AFC West, and Hill returned to the sideline amid thunderous cheers of Ty-REEK! Ty-REEK! But how many of those fans chanting Hill’s name were also aware of what happened on Dec. 11, 2014? How many knew and still cheered?

Now the most electrifying returner in the NFL—and one of the league’s fastest players—Hill committed domestic assault and battery by strangulation that night, a felony charge to which he pleaded guilty in August 2015. Now, as one of the most dangerous game-breakers remaining in the playoffs, he will take the turf at Arrowhead for the divisional-round game against the Steelers and again test how we treat domestic abusers who also happen to be star athletes.

Some would argue there is no place in professional sports for a man like Hill. How can he be allowed to make hundreds of thousands of dollars playing a child’s game after beating the mother of his child? Conversely, what about rehabilitation, forgiveness and second chances? Hill has faced legal, social, financial and professional consequences for the past two years. Unlike some other abusers, he has accepted full responsibility.

If there is a path to absolution for Hill, it cannot be traveled in his rookie year. The 2014 incident is still too raw.

Hill, then a 20-year-old star returner and wide receiver at Oklahoma State, was at his apartment with his girlfriend, who was eight weeks pregnant with their child, when she received a text message from someone saying that Hill had been “hitting on high schoolers.” According to the police report and court testimony, Hill threw her phone and laptop into the hallway and shut her out of his room. When she re-entered, Hill hit her in the face, choked her and punched her in the stomach. He put her in a headlock that put “external pressure on her neck that compressed her airway” according to his statement in his guilty plea.

Officer Justin Reedy of the Stillwater Police Department, who met the victim at the hospital that night, noted her injuries and then went to Hill’s apartment to arrest him. It’s because “[I’m] black and she was white,” Reedy said Hill told him as he was being placed in custody.

In court, the victim courageously recounted the events of that night as she worked with the district attorney while the prosecution negotiated Hill’s sentence. A first-time offender, Hill, who faced one to three years in prison, received a three-year deferred sentence with probation, along with requirements for a domestic-abuse evaluation, an anger management court and a year-long batterer’s program. Cowboys head coach Mike Gundy kicked Hill off the team shortly after the arrest, which came less than a week after his punt-return touchdown beat rival Oklahoma.

The next season, Hill transferred to Division II West Alabama in Livingston, where he scored eight touchdowns as a returner and wide receiver. Then he ran a 4.25-second 40 at the school’s pro day the following spring. One NFC general manager told SI that Hill was a second-day talent but had informed his staff to “not even mess with him.”

Kansas City had a different viewpoint and drafted Hill in the fifth round last April. As a rookie lining up at receiver and returner, the 5' 10", 185-pound Hill scored 12 touchdowns (six receiving, three rushing, two on punt returns and one on a kick return) for the 12–4 Chiefs and was unanimously voted an All-Pro last week. A remarkable rookie season.

Yet if there were video of Hill committing this heinous act, there is a legitimate chance he is not in the NFL today. Teams will have to grapple with whether or not to draft Oklahoma running back Joe Mixon this spring after video of him punching a woman was released in December. Terrible as it was, Mixon punched a stranger; Hill punched and choked a woman carrying his child.

Former Ravens running back Ray Rice detailed to the league his assault of his then fiancée, but it wasn’t until the team saw the video that he was cut. “The reality is Ray Rice, that situation, is transformative,” one AFC general manager told SI. “Like the fundamental thing is, and this is fair or unfair, but it’s the truth. With [Greg] Hardy there were pictures, with Rice there was video and with Hill there was nothing. And that’s why he’s playing.

“You can make the argument he choked a pregnant woman. There’s no defense of that. They’re all bad, but that might be the worst of the three.”

After Kansas City picked Hill, the team’s Twitter account was flooded with negative comments. In response, general manager John Dorsey said, “I just want everybody to understand that we have done our due diligence with regards to fully vetting each one of our draft-class members,” and coach Andy Reid expressed admiration for how Hill was “trying to make the effort to right the wrong.” Shortly after being drafted, Hill was quoted as saying that “I’ve just got to be better at choosing my friends.” After being questioned by reporters, Hill then said that was “the very wrong way to look at it” and that he blames no one but himself.

The assault in Stillwater has flown largely under the radar this year in the media. In four nationally televised games, Hill’s domestic violence charge was mentioned just once, when NBC’s Mike Tirico, Cris Collinsworth and Michele Tafoya detailed Hill’s arrest and aftermath in Kansas City’s Week 12 overtime win over Denver after he returned a kick 86 yards for a touchdown.

“It always gets into those fine lines of second chances versus maybe you don’t deserve a second chance sometimes,” Collinsworth said.


There’s also a fine line for media regarding Hill. Should his domestic violence history be mentioned every time he touches the ball? Should Tirico or Al Michaels or Jim Nantz call an exhilarating punt return with the same gusto as they would for a 4.25 runner who has never beaten a pregnant woman? There’s a question of whether fans want to hear about it at all, preferring entertainment over moralizing.

Hill has avoided any legal trouble since his guilty plea. And he has paid a price, though it may not be sufficient. He’s on probation for another 20 months. He will forever be labeled a woman abuser. He must live with the guilt of his actions. He didn’t get an invitation to the NFL combine—the greatest sports job fair there is. Yes, he made $550,000 in salary this year, but he missed out on upwards of $500,000 in guaranteed money had he been a third-rounder. Still, his second chance is borne out of a universal truth that if you are among the best at what you do—in business, in sport or even in religion—you get more rope.

While Hill has avoided any and all trouble since that night, this pales in comparison to the emotional scar the victim bears. The wishes of Hill’s ex-girlfriend, who has since birthed her baby boy, must also be accounted for. One may think Hill should be in prison for his crime, but the person most greatly affected bravely faced him in court and worked with prosecutors to come up with a punishment she felt was adequate. She has declined or not responded to multiple media requests—including one from SI—but in a 2015 tweet to an Oklahoma State fan she wrote “I’m the person he attacked. If I can let go, so can you.”

Letting go, though, should not be confused with forgiving or forgetting what happened that night.
http://www.si.com/nfl/2017/01/10/tyr...estic-violence

jjchieffan 01-10-2017 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe (Post 12674010)

While Hill has avoided any and all trouble since that night, this pales in comparison to the emotional scar the victim bears. The wishes of Hill’s ex-girlfriend, who has since birthed her baby boy, must also be accounted for. One may think Hill should be in prison for his crime, but the person most greatly affected bravely faced him in court and worked with prosecutors to come up with a punishment she felt was adequate. She has declined or not responded to multiple media requests—including one from SI—but in a 2015 tweet to an Oklahoma State fan she wrote “I’m the person he attacked. If I can let go, so can you.”

jettio 01-10-2017 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe (Post 12674010)


The Packers are still in the playoffs, why don't azzhole Broncos fans spend their off-season posting SI.com articles about some genuine criminal late-round draft picks?

http://www.si.com/longform/true-crim...all-woodfield/

THE I-5 KILLER

With the 428th pick in the 1974 NFL draft, the Green Bay Packers selected. . . one of the most violent killers in U.S. history. No one is saying football led Randall Woodfield down his dark path—but did it perhaps deter him from it, at least for a while?

BY L. JON WERTHEIM

Priest31kc 01-10-2017 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DC.chief (Post 12646283)
I feel like it's time we stop considering Maclin some great weapon at WR. Dude has 483 yards this season

He just set the franchise single season record in receptions in 15 games last year to go along with 1000+ yards & a 8 TDs with Alex Smith as his QB...

He, along with everyone else, got off to a slow start offensively this season...and then he missed 5 games and it took him a game or two to knock off the rust of a groin injury.

And by the time he came back, Andy smartly started to run the offense through Kelce & Hill, leaving Maclin as the 3rd option in an offense designed to spread it around.

Still finished with 44 for 536 & 2 TDs in 11 games, and he's still a Top 20-25 WR when healthy...

prhom 01-10-2017 07:17 PM

I guarantee that Hill would not clear waivers if we cut him tomorrow. I believe there are a few GMs who honestly wouldn't draft him knowing what he would become, but I'm sure there are a few who would take the chance if they had the benefit of hindsight. Ray Rice isn't playing because he was done, not because the NFL grew a conscience.

Rain Man 01-10-2017 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by prhom (Post 12674054)
I guarantee that Hill would not clear waivers if we cut him tomorrow. I believe there are a few GMs who honestly wouldn't draft him knowing what he would become, but I'm sure there are a few who would take the chance if they had the benefit of hindsight. Ray Rice isn't playing because he was done, not because the NFL grew a conscience.

If Hill was cut tomorrow, I'm highly confident that 31 teams would claim him.

jjchieffan 01-10-2017 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 12674066)
If Hill was cut tomorrow, I'm highly confident that 31 teams would claim him.

No. 30 Maybe. No way my Broncos would have him on the team/KnowShit


Then after he became a Bronco............Forgive and forget I always say.

Quesadilla Joe 01-10-2017 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 12674066)
If Hill was cut tomorrow, I'm highly confident that 31 teams would claim him.

If a video of the assault came out, the Chiefs would cut him the next day and nobody in the league would claim him.

jjchieffan 01-10-2017 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe (Post 12674089)
If a video of the assault came out, the Chiefs would cut him the next day and nobody in the league would claim him.

If the fix wasn't in, the Broncos would not have even been in Superbowl 50, much less won it. But we aren't talking about if's here are we?

stevieray 01-10-2017 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe (Post 12674089)
If a video of the assault came out, the Chiefs would cut him the next day and nobody in the league would claim him.

you poor guy.

CrossCheck 01-10-2017 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe (Post 12674089)
If a video of the assault came out, the Chiefs would cut him the next day and nobody in the league would claim him.


Denver might, they've had four players arrested twice for domestic abuse since 2000. Doesn't seem to bother them much.

edit: they even have a wife beater in their ring of honor

Easy 6 01-10-2017 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe (Post 12674010)

Sorry, he isnt available for the donx... you'll have to find your own phenomenon

Rain Man 01-10-2017 08:27 PM

I guarantee that the Broncos would sign him, because their owner would be quite sympathetic.

http://www.denverpost.com/2015/06/04...lence-charges/

John Bowlen, son of Broncos owner Pat Bowlen, arrested on domestic violence charges
By JESSE PAUL | jpaul@denverpost.com, NICKI JHABVALA | njhabvala@denverpost.com and TROY E. RENCK | trenck@denverpost.com | The Denver Post
PUBLISHED: June 4, 2015 at 7:30 am | UPDATED: June 7, 2016 at 11:54 am

John Bowlen, the son of Broncos owner Pat Bowlen, was arrested Wednesday night on domestic violence charges after he allegedly pushed his girlfriend against a bathroom wall in Glendale, records show.

Police say Bowlen’s girlfriend was trying to call police because “of his erratic behavior,” but dropped the phone when she was pushed. Investigators say Bowlen then ended the call. When dispatchers called back, he picked up the phone, an arrest warrant says.

“This is the owner of the Denver Broncos. I am sorry. Nothing is wrong,” Bowlen said, according to the warrant.

Bowlen is a candidate to take over the team after his father, who is suffering from Alzheimer’s, announced in July he would relinquish his duties and look to transfer ownership to one of his seven children.

Bowlen, 29, was held at the Arapahoe County jail overnight on suspicion of third-degree assault and harassment, two Class 3 misdemeanors. He was released Thursday on $1,000 bond on conditions of monitored sobriety and no co-habitation with the victim. His next hearing is scheduled for July 6.

Glendale police say they were called to a luxury apartment building on the 4500 block of Cherry Creek Drive South about 10:15 p.m. Wednesday in response to the dropped 911 call.

Officers said in an arrest warrant that when they arrived at the apartment they could hear a female crying and a male yelling.

“I didn’t do anything wrong and I’m going to call Harvey,” Bowlen said when he opened the door for police, according to the warrant.

Bowlen then called a man he said was his lawyer, according to police. Attorney Harvey Steinberg is representing Bowlen.

Bowlen’s girlfriend told investigators he had made comments about killing someone and was under the influence of “whippets” — nitrous oxide — and alcohol. She said she had been dating him for about 10 months during which there were “previous incidences of verbal abuse,” the warrant said.

The Broncos have placed Bowlen, a marketing employee based out of Sports Authority Field at Mile High, on an indefinite leave of absence, per NFL protocol.

“We are disappointed to learn of the matter involving John Bowlen, who is a son of owner Pat Bowlen and an administrative employee with the organization,” the team said in a statement. “While this is a personal issue, he is accountable to all club and league conduct policies. As such, John will be placed on an indefinite leave of absence from the organization.”

The Broncos were one of the first teams in the NFL to conduct domestic violence seminars for all employees last season, and Bowlen was required to attend two sessions.

In 2003, Bowlen was accused in Glendale of possessing marijuana and drug paraphernalia, but those charges were dismissed by Arapahoe County prosecutors, court records show.

In August 2005, Bowlen was arrested by Boulder police on suspicion of driving under the influence, Colorado Bureau of Investigation records show. He pleaded guilty to driving while ability impaired in that case, according to court records.

The Broncos’ ownership is in a trust run by Broncos CEO and president Joe Ellis, team counsel Rich Slivka and Denver attorney Mary Kelly. They will make the eventual decision on who takes over the team.

Pat Bowlen, 71, has two daughters from his first marriage to Sally Parker. The youngest, Elizabeth “Beth” Bowlen Wallace, 44, is the team’s director of special projects and events. The oldest, Amie Bowlen Klemmer, resides in Hawaii.

Pat Bowlen has five children with Annabel Bowlen, to whom he’s been married 35 years.

Patrick III, 31, is the facilities coordinator of the Sports Authority Field at Mile High Stadium Management Company.

John, named after his uncle, has a master’s degree in business administration with a concentration in sports and entertainment management from the University of Colorado at Denver.

Brittany, 25, is a graduate of the University of Notre Dame and a part of the NFL’s junior rotational internship program for training on the league’s business side.

Pat’s two youngest daughters are Annabel, 22, and Christianna, 17.

Quesadilla Joe 01-10-2017 08:34 PM

Johnny Bowlen no longer works for the team and possibly pissed away any shot of "owning" the team.

Hog's Gone Fishin 01-10-2017 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe (Post 12674190)
Johnny Bowlen no longer works for the team and possibly pissed away any shot of "owning" the team.

BwaHaaaHaaa. Rainman got you good you little cock drizzle. Now go the **** away.

CrossCheck 01-10-2017 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe (Post 12674190)
Johnny Bowlen no longer works for the team and possibly pissed away any shot of "owning" the team.

After his arrest, Bowlen was placed on an indefinite leave from his administrative position with the Denver Broncos but was seen celebrating with the team after their win at Super Bowl 50.

:)

Rain Man 01-10-2017 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by CrossCheck (Post 12674236)
After his arrest, Bowlen was placed on an indefinite leave from his administrative position with the Denver Broncos but was seen celebrating with the team after their win at Super Bowl 50.

:)

Heh-heh. Check and mate.

Oh, wait. We do need a link, though. Here it is: http://denver.cbslocal.com/2016/04/1...of-harassment/

prhom 01-10-2017 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by CrossCheck (Post 12674236)
After his arrest, Bowlen was placed on an indefinite leave from his administrative position with the Denver Broncos but was seen celebrating with the team after their win at Super Bowl 50.

:)

Yes, but it seems that doesn't go far enough for some people. He should also have to give up any earnings or future earnings he may be entitled to. There should be no way for him to reap the benefits of what he was born to do. If he's not flipping burgers at McDonald's then he's doing too well. I'm willing to be he's "surviving" pretty well off proceeds that come from the Broncos, even if it is indirectly.

ChiefsCountry 01-10-2017 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 12674066)
If Hill was cut tomorrow, I'm highly confident that 31 teams would claim him.

Raiders of all teams won't.
http://www.sfchronicle.com/raiders/a...ic-6636707.php

SAUTO 01-10-2017 09:49 PM

There is literally a guy in the ESPN comments saying shazier is going to cover hill and shut him down.

Chiefs=Champions 01-10-2017 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 12674248)
Heh-heh. Check and mate.

Oh, wait. We do need a link, though. Here it is: http://denver.cbslocal.com/2016/04/1...of-harassment/

:)


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