Lot of true freshmen on the 2-deep. Barry appears to understand recruiting/development very well.

Big O was looking pretty good, the coaching staff needs to game plan for him. He needs more targets.

Who is this team and what have they done with Mizzou.....?

Same with Lock lol.

Whole situation reminds me (a bit) of the 2004 season when Mizzou Fan wanted Pinkel fired.

Great game, I like how Odom never takes his foot off of the gas. Albert O is a stud.

Can we find some way to never have Andre Ware call another Mizzou game? He absolutely hates mizzou and doesn't hide it one bit. When it was 35-0 all he could do was praise Vandy. Webb this, Webb that. **** that bust.

Congrats on your turn around Mizzou fans

I don't think that will be an issue.

Agree, Andre Ware sucks at his current job.

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Bowl? Music City Bowl? Back to Nashville?

I’ve heard a lot of people complain about this. I thought Ware was fine. He was very completely of Mizzou, and he’s got a new Bromance in Albert O. The game was over in the first half, he still had to call another half. What was he supposed to do? Totally ignore Vandy?

I totally misjudged Barry when we were 1-5 & he gave his post game speech. I thought he was totally over his head much like Kim Anderson with the basketball team.

Glad I was wrong.

Exactly

Also, it would have been pretty cool to see Beckner get into the end zone. The guy has been through so much and worked to hard to come back after two knee surgeries. Two more games to appreciate how good he is before he goes to the NFL.

Related: how many 305+ DL can snag the ball out of the air like that, and then come that close to retuning it 90ish yards for a TD? Guessing not too many.

If they had started the season this way they'd be 9-2 with the Arkansas game left.

a bunch of true freshmen were playing really well last night. You still think our recruiting is awful?

These are not the same guys from September. I’m not saying it’s aliens, but it’s aliens.

Seems to be plenty of NFL scouts at these Mizzou games.

Pass me a hefty serving of crow, too.

Ignore him. He's still butthurt from the Penn State game and that Nebraska is becoming irrelevant.

He's a NU fan...they haven't seen real talent in decades.

Yup. Long term you won't succeed in the SEC with these kind of recruiting classes. You've beat 2 teams without coaches and a bunch of other rubbish. I'm not trolling and it's nice you don't have to fire your coach this year but long term my opinion of your program hasn't changed.

NU has a mediocre coach with shit recruiting that won 9 games beating up on similar bad teams last year. Can you provide examples of SEC teams winning with 60th ranked recruiting classes?

Going 8-5 would probably help with recruiting

Friday we get to see if Lock can break an SEC touchdown record.

Odom deserves a lot of credit for the turn around. What Mizzou has done is remarkable since they started 1-5. The players could have easily given up on the season and quit on Odom, but they didn't.

I think Odom as a recruiter has a ways to go and you will have a better idea of how good he is once Lock and Beckner leave. Neither of those players were recruited by Odom.

But this stretch, while they've done it, does deserve to be met with some skepticism. They have beaten a team that is moving down from FBS to FCS, a team that brought back a coach from their "glory days" as a program that has not really ever had a lot of success outside of a part of Edsall's first time as HC at UConn at the FBS level(they've been shit since he left and are shit since he's returned), a team that fired its HC before facing Mizzou, and two teams that can win no more than 5 games this season, including a team which might have its first 8 loss season in program history.

While I don't doubt that Mizzou has improved they started 1-5, I do doubt that the improved play will be sustainable long term.

They do have other guys that will be in the draft. . .

Missouri succeeded long-term under Pinkel recruiting mostly classes that ranked between 25-45.

They can't recruit in the 60s, but they also aren't going to stay there and only sign 13 players like they currently have committed. They'll move into the 40s on sheer numbers alone.

Odom and his staff have to use this as an opportunity to step up their recruiting, definitely. this gives them something to sell, which he hasn't really had.

But it's worth noting the performance of the freshman and sophomore shows that this staff is good at evaluation. That's critical for a Mizzou coaching staff. Missouri, when it was at its best under Pinkel, was mixing top 25-40 recruiting classes with really good player development and finding under-the-radar players.

Progress on the second half of that is encouraging.


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Really? That's why he was hoping to God his close play was a fumble when he was clearly down? lol

While I get that you want to piss in the punch bowl.....I'm not buying the above. It sounds like the very same explanation that everyone used when MU won the SEC East...."the whole conference is down so your title isn't legit."

BS...you play the schedule you are given each year. Some years are down years for programs and you catch them at the right time, but that doesn't damage the legitimacy of winning. 5 weeks ago no one gave MU a chance of doing anything short of total collapse. Some teams were even counting their game with Mizzou as a "sure win" (see Florida and Tenn for reference) that would make them one step closer to bowl bids.

Well here we are 5 weeks later and not only did MU win 5 in a row, they did it in very convincing fashion...like a winning team is supposed to do. Bowl game scouts look at a couple of things when it comes to picking teams.....who is a "hot team" going down the stretch of this season and which team travels well enough and offers a match up to put butts in the seats.

MU is playing well now and has 2 confirmed bowls looking at them...there are 3 other SEC East teams that will be eligible (GA, SC, and KY) and 2 of those teams are not playing well down the stretch (SC & KY).

So, you don't believe that I should be skeptical at Mizzou's performance when they have not beaten a single team with a winning record at all this season?

You and others need to just accept things for what they are. They have a mediocre record and they are a mediocre team.

Mediocre teams usually beat shit ones.

Seems to mesh up just right.

I accept that they are a mediocre team. I don't accept that they are a good team that can sustain this level of play.

Against bad teams? Yeah they can.

If they come up with a not reeruned Defense and can reliably run the ball, I see no reason why they can't be in the mix in a subpar division in 2018.

That's a huge if.

Do you think Florida will have improved play next year along with Tennessee? Because I do. If Florida makes the right hire and finally addresses their biggest issue since Tebow graduated-QB- there is no reason why they can't compete with UGA every year in the East.

Looks like Kelly to UF will be a thing.
Interesting to see who Rocky Top gets. Maybe Mullen?

Both teams are a real mess and we don't know if Tenn will actually make an upgrade at HC.

Florida is hot dog shit at QB and until you've got a QB, you ain't got shit. Chip gonna need more than one year to turn it around.
Mullen would be a great hire for Tennessee. I'm not real positive on Chip at UF.

He better have contacts with a world class elite recruiter.

Not even Florida fans think things will right themselves by next .....and TN always manages to under-achieve.

And yes you can be skeptical if you apply that same theory to all Division 1 FBS teams....any game they play against a crappier team doesn't count toward their record.

Mizzou is like Bryan Busby said...Mizzou is a mediocre team...but that is a helluva lot better than what we were seeing at the beginning of the year.

Sounds like bad news for Kentucky then if you ask me.

Mediocre teams don't beat five straight bad teams by 28-47 points.

I guess I just choose not get butthurt over what the broadcast teams says.

When I say mediocre I mean in comparison to Top 10 Teams.....Bama, Clemson, Miami....

His comment, "That's awfully close to a fumble...", had me rolling my eyes. I think when the games get out of hand announcers must try to manufacture drama or competition.

And they never will. There is no equity in college football. That's the reality of the game. There are a handful of teams from which the eventual champion emerges every year, and we ain't one of them.

Missouri's ceiling is top second tier team. Every now and then they get there. But if they won the SEC East 20 years in a row, they'd lose to Alabama/Auburn in the championship game 20 years in a row. Just like they almost never beat Oklahoma, and certainly not when it really mattered.

That's just the way it is.

Mizzou's best chance was the year they played Auburn.....and they actually kept that game close enough. I still think that shot on Henry Josey that knocked him into the golf cart should have been 15 more yard and gotten the guy kicked out of the game.

I get that our ceiling is where it is...but I must admit I am enjoying this year. After listening to the FL/GA local sports shows making fun of MU early in the season and counting their game as a sure win ahead of time, and then seeing that crumble makes this season successful to me.

Plus.....if they get into the TaxSlayer Bowl I can go see the game

That's true up until it isn't. College football is dynastic, but there are a lot of teams that we would lump in like that who have crashed the party.

There were decades where Florida, FSU, and Miami were absolute dog shit programs. Nebraska was the best program of the 90s, and teams like Colorado, Georgia Tech, Washington have won national titles, where there have been long stretches where Alabama, Auburn, and Texas were flat out bad. Clemson was an also-ran for 20+ years until they hired Swinney, and Oregon went from a perennial doormat to an elite program for a decade, until they hired the wrong guy.

The right coach can make any Power 5 school a destination and the wrong one can destroy any dynasty.

It's not like I wouldn't love to be proven wrong here. I just don't ever see it happening.

If only the Big 12 hadn't had a conference championship game in 2007.....

The perennial powers stay elite.....and that class is small. You would have to lump Alabama, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Michigan and maybe Penn State to that group. Alabama's bad stretch was really short in comparison to most.....and Ohio State and Oklahoma still seem to be good even in down years.

The reality is that MU will probably be Top 20 at different times....maybe climbing to Top 5 once in a while, but never be an "elite" team.

If we had a decent defensive coordinator in 2013, it may have been Mizzou vs FSU at the Rose Bowl for all the marbles

We can do it, it just won't be easy. If Wisconsin believes they can do it, Mizzou should too. Afterall, when has Wisconsin ever been a win away from the NCG? Never. Mizzou has done that twice (2007, 2013). I want to return to that level of play, and there's no reason we can't do it a Missouri

That 2013 team was loaded. Best team of the Pinkel era. I think they would have matched up better against Alabama, honestly, than Auburn. Maybe not well enough to win the league, but better (that Alabama team was still running a very pro-style offense, and Missouri's aggressive Tampa 2 matched up nicely against that).

Missouri CAN be a consistent top 25-30 program with a good coach. A few times a decade, that type of program can/should ascend and compete legitimately for a division title.

Unless they land an all-time great coach, that's probably the ceiling for now. And that's fine.

It's also the territory Clemson lived in until Swinney took it to the next level. So it's possible to stabilize and then ascend.


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I'm not sure about Clemson. That was always a great job. Surrounded by talent, solid tradition, rabid fanbase, pure football school.

I think we're more like South Carolina. Potential yet to be fully realized

And I'm not sure why I'm supposed to be worried about some sleeping giant that is Tennessee football.

That fanbase has always believed that program is better than it is. It isn't as though TN is a hotbed of football talent or anything. Johnny Majors was essentially their version of Gary Pinkel; good coach for a long time that never quite got over the hump. He made them relevant again much in the same way that Pinkel finally pushed Mizzou past the ignominy of the Widenhofer/Stull years.

And then Fulmer came along, continued a similar trend but won that one key game that Pinkel couldn't win (damn you, Oklahoma...) that built on what Majors accomplished before him.

Tennessee has no cause to be considered obviously better than Missouri, regardless of what their fans or the pundits think.

Florida can make that claim but they're dealing with so much competition for FL kids that it makes it pretty hard for them to stay on top for any appreciable period of time as well. With Florida State always being FSU and Miami constantly lurking in the shadows, not to mention the fact that everyone in the SEC makes it a goal to poach from FL, I'm not going to just concede that FL should be a perennial powerhouse.

Georgia scares me more than either of those 2. GA has a great talent base and far less competition from in-school powers for them. If UGA got the right coach (and they might have him), they could be set up for some pretty long-term domination due to legitimate logistical advantages they have.

Mizzou could be considered on par with South Carolina if you wanted to go that route, sure. But they have the ability to go toe to toe with TN.

Someone needs to talk me out of dropping a grand on the Tigers tomorrow!

I've bet a C note the last couple of weeks for some easy money but I'm thinking of going big time tomorrow.

Should I stick to $100 or push it with a $1000?

That's a lot of money to put on Mizzou, especially given how their defense performed in the second half. Arkansas isn't great, but they have looked better the last few weeks.

Tennessee has proven they can put together top 10 classes. If they ever had a competent coach they could be an easy playoff team. I don't think Currie is a good AD and could see them hiring a guy like Mullen who IMO ceiling is 9-10 wins.

I'd feel more comfortable about paying a hooker $100 to choke me out in the shower than any money riding anything Mizzou, ever.

LMAO

Ok. You guys talked me out of it.

Damn. Just called my bookie & he can get me Mizzou -7 today. I only bet a C note but I really wanted to go hard on it.

Go for 10 grand

Good throw there, Lock.

This is starting well. :banghead:

Those deep passes will be there all day long, won't stop them.

Not a good start

getting ass whipped

Cool I can go do more productive things, like jack off and eat leftovers.

Here's the old Mizzou team

Still can't beat a team that has a pulse in any way shape or form. Allen is better than any QB they've played in several weeks.

Running into your own blocker...

Way to shit all over great field position. :facepalm:

That's why you don't bet on a team whose defense played like that during the second half last week.

Damn Lock can fling it. What round is he projected in?

Always had a cannon. The issue is his touch.

I don't get how Arkansas is so bad. Bert was a damn good coach at Wisconsin.

Sounds like T.Bray without the 50 IQ.

* Obligatory conference bashing post. *

If Mizzou can score here, Arkansas might fold up the tents.

LMAO at the commentator. "Yeah, that's illegal."

Catch the ****ing ball, Moore.

Moore has the hand eye coordination of a reeruned sea lion.

Jesus ****ing Christ, Moore. Get the **** out.