When you think about it, it's pretty insulting to even compare Allen to Mahomes at this point.

1) Allen was flat garbage until Diggs. Mahomes has been great since day 1.
2) Allen is a fumble/pick machine. Mahomes is one of the least mistake-prone (good) QBs in history.
3) Mahomes is a 2 time champ/2 time MVP/2 time SB MVP. Allen's most notable achievement to date is coming within 13 seconds of beating Mahomes in the divisional round.

A team left feeling like a bunch of shitty pussies. Is no easy fix, when confidence is half the battle

This sums things up very well. :thumb:

Thickening discuthing

Ouch. That hurts.

Did I dream that the Bills have won 2 of their last 3 at Arrowhead?

Sure you can wash those wins away by saying they didn’t happen in the playoffs… but they still happened at Arrowhead!

It’s funny to me how ONE game changes everyone’s perception.

The Bills held the #1 Seed in the AFC, with a 13-3 record, and the best odds to win the Super Bowl, prior to Hamlin going down last year.

They lose ONE GAME, and now all of a sudden they’re shit?

Interesting take.

Let’s see how it plays out…

Mahomes is definitely better.

No argument there.

Id pick Mahomes #1 in league redraft and Allen #2.

But comparing from the beginning isn’t going to work, because Allen admittedly sucked his rookie year.

But what about lately?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">NFL&#39;s top young QB&#39;s over last 40 games:<br><br>Allen: 12,475 yards, 105 TD&#39;s, 32 INT<br>Mahomes: 13,213 yards, 100 TD&#39;s, 29 INT<br>Burrow: 11,184 yards, 88 TD&#39;s, 29 INT<br>Murray: 11,786 yards, 83 TD&#39;s, 29 INT<br>Jackson: 10,417 yards, 71 TD&#39;s, 29 INT<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bills?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Bills</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bengals?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Bengals</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cardinals?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cardinals</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Ravens?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Ravens</a> <a href="https://t.co/8sOWGG5LP9">pic.twitter.com/8sOWGG5LP9</a></p>&mdash; Bills Stats &amp; More (@Tickets_Buffalo) <a href="https://twitter.com/Tickets_Buffalo/status/1605026050844807168?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 20, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Lately he led the league in turnovers and got his ass caved in at home in a home playoff game.

Lately, he's ****ing Vinny Testaverde with wheels.

Stay in your ****ing lane. You should be thrilled drafting Josh Allen has brought you a new stadium, because that old one was starting to smell like rancid buffalo wings. Anything else is gravy.

What's with the weird game number? There's no reason to cut that at 40 games, unless you're trying to game the stats and find the best comparison for the guy you're trying to spotlight.

Let's look at it since Allen got Diggs (2020, right?)

Allen:
49 games 65.2% completions, 7.4 Y/A, 11.4 Y/C, 15,180 combined yards, 129 TDs, 85 sacks for 485 yards (Net 14,695 yards), 61 turnovers

Mahomes:
49 games, 66.6% completions, 7.8 Y/A, 11.8 Y/C, 15,310 combined yards, 124 TDs, 76 sacks for 481 yards (Net 14, 829 yards), 42 turnovers

So literally the only edge Allen has in that comparison is in total TDs, by 5 (he has more rushing yards but fewer passing yards and fewer combined yards). And the Bills are using him as a runner, especially in the red zone... which is one reason his fumble count is higher. And isn't good for the longevity of a QB.

You guys really need Rousseau to take a big step this year bc Von is coming off another major knee injury at 34. And I have no idea why the **** you guys paid Ed Oliver. Makes zero sense.

AFC East isn't a cake walk anymore. The Jets finally have a top end QB with weapons to go with that top 5 defense and the Dolphins getting Vic Fangio might be the biggest off-season addition in the league.

*flips page of football season guide*

Ah, the part where diqlix spams the board with Josh Allen stat tweets and shows CP how little he knows about football while trying to convince us that a team not winning Super Bowls is actually more impressive than a team that does.

Probably because your O-line situation hasn’t been fixed, your 2nd year corner (Elam) is trending the wrong way, your other CB, White isn’t performing at the level he should, you still have no replacement for Edmunds, your safeties are not getting any younger, your running game is still suspect, Diggs is unhappy and you lack a solid #2 WR. The only place you upgraded was TE. Your division will also be more difficult as will your schedule.

look at this desperation

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bills HC Sean McDermott says QB Josh Allen and the starters will play Saturday against the Bears.</p>&mdash; Joe Buscaglia (@JoeBuscaglia) <a href="https://twitter.com/JoeBuscaglia/status/1694728223538766280?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 24, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Ah, but when it really mattered...13 seconds.

Go get your shinebox.

Its like clockwork every season

Mahomes is better but....

https://i.imgur.com/U5nSXdU.jpg