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Bowser 12-26-2020 02:19 PM

It's awesome they chose not to go full CGI with the show

BigRedChief 12-27-2020 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 15422670)
It's awesome they chose not to go full CGI with the show

I think it’s an essential ingredient to its success.

Hammock Parties 12-27-2020 01:24 AM

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Buehler445 12-27-2020 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 15423758)
I think it’s an essential ingredient to its success.

Eh, maybe. I think it is a symptom of what makes it successful. I think if we are honest with ourselves, we could rewatch some of it and find scenes/sets that would be better/cleaner with additional CGI.

What makes the thing work is the care they put into it. They care about the story, they care about the characters, they care about ****ing Star Wars, man.

If you look at Mando vs the Sequel Trillogy, in Mando they're telling a story. In the ST they're trying to find pieces to fit a pre-determined formula that has to fit with the notes they want to hit. You can tell they had their formula and filled it in (with a bunch of shit). Then they started the next movie with a pile of shit and determined their endpoint and started filling in shit.

I doubt when they started Mando, they were like - WE NEED TO GET HERE [X]. Now how the **** do we get there? Just like the original Star Wars. They had some characters and told a cool ass story.

But the big thing is they give a shit about the STORY rather than hitting points on a formula. Much more art than corporate production. And the care they put into getting the story right, carries over to the look and feel feeling like Star Wars, the Easter Eggs, tie ins, all of it leads to decisions being made like practical sets. Not necessarily practical sets being reason it works.

FFS there are a lot of notes on the animated series that work.

I mean if this doesn't move the needle for you...



Bottom line is I think you're mostly right, but it isn't a reason it's successful, its a result of what makes it successful.

Wow, didn't mean to ramble on there. Christ, a direct to streaming series based on a 43 year old movie has me writing long ass posts about how I almost agree with you. I guess that's a sign of what F&F have captured here.

ScareCrowe 12-28-2020 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mephistopheles Janx (Post 15414814)

Robert Rodriguez Prepped for ‘Mandalorian’ by Directing Boba Fett Home Movie with Action Figures

https://www.indiewire.com/2020/12/ro...es-1234606827/

LMAO

notorious 12-28-2020 08:38 PM

I want to see that short movie with action figures now! ROFL

Bowser 12-30-2020 01:03 AM

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BigRedChief 12-30-2020 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 15424083)

Bottom line is I think you're mostly right, but it isn't a reason it's successful, its a result of what makes it successful.

Wow, didn't mean to ramble on there. Christ, a direct to streaming series based on a 43 year old movie has me writing long ass posts about how I almost agree with you. I guess that's a sign of what F&F have captured here.

LMAO great post:thumb:

DaneMcCloud 12-30-2020 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 15424083)
Bottom line is I think you're mostly right, but it isn't a reason it's successful, its a result of what makes it successful.

It's really difficult to separate the VFX from the stories because they're so often intertwined.

It wouldn't be as effective to see Din Djarin wrestle with a cardboard cutout covered in fake scales as it is to see him wrestle with an amazing Krayt Dragon created by the VFX team at ILM but I also believe that this production team of Favreau & Filoni would be able to work around any limitations, just as George did with the OT. It's just that the stories would be slightly different.

It won't be long before Practical Effects are somewhere around 10% of what we see, just like On Location shooting has been eliminated due to The Volume. But the most important aspect of Star Wars, or any TV show or film in which VFX are essential to the production, is the story, the actors and the direction.

If those three aspects aren't in place, production companies could spend $500 million on VFX and lose every penny because if people don't care about the characters and their fate, why bother watching?

BigRedChief 12-30-2020 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 15433059)
It's really difficult to separate the VFX from the stories because they're so often intertwined.

It wouldn't be as effective to see Din Djarin wrestle with a cardboard cutout covered in fake scales as it is to see him wrestle with an amazing Krayt Dragon created by the VFX team at ILM but I also believe that this production team of Favreau & Filoni would be able to work around any limitations, just as George did with the OT. It's just that the stories would be slightly different.

It won't be long before Practical Effects are somewhere around 10% of what we see, just like On Location shooting has been eliminated due to The Volume. But the most important aspect of Star Wars, or any TV show or film in which VFX are essential to the production, is the story, the actors and the direction.

If those three aspects aren't in place, production companies could spend $500 million on VFX and lose every penny because if people don't care about the characters and their fate, why bother watching?

The VFX is essential to fight the dragon in the story. No other way to do that. But, its the characters that made Mandolorian a hit with some assist in the beginning of a baby yoda showing up.

Cantina scenes don't need CGI generated patrons. The officer mess in chapter 15 doesn't need CGI besides the laser fire. Bottom line, if you can do it credibly, don't use CGI. Save it to make stuff thats not possible without CGI to push the story along.

BigRedChief 12-30-2020 06:39 PM

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Mennonite 12-31-2020 04:57 PM

I'm four episodes in. It's ok. The first three episodes feel like a generic western script broken into three parts. Episode 4 is your standard A-Team/Magnificent 7/7 Samurai plot. The cliched "character is about to be assassinated but is saved at the minute by a shot from off camera" bit has been used twice in three episodes.

Does the writing ever get more sophisticated?

Frazod 12-31-2020 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Mennonite (Post 15434825)
I'm four episodes in. It's ok. The first three episodes feel like a generic western script broken into three parts. Episode 4 is your standard A-Team/Magnificent 7/7 Samurai plot. The cliched "character is about to be assassinated but is saved at the minute by a shot from off camera" bit has been used twice in three episodes.

Does the writing ever get more sophisticated?

It's Star Wars, not Shakespeare.

And when they try sophisticated, we end up with shit like Phantom Menace and Last Jedi.

Mennonite 12-31-2020 05:08 PM

Well, that's disappointing. I suppose we'll stop where we're at then.

KC_Connection 12-31-2020 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mennonite (Post 15434825)
I'm four episodes in. It's ok. The first three episodes feel like a generic western script broken into three parts. Episode 4 is your standard A-Team/Magnificent 7/7 Samurai plot. The cliched "character is about to be assassinated but is saved at the minute by a shot from off camera" bit has been used twice in three episodes.

Does the writing ever get more sophisticated?

Sophisticated? Is it supposed to be? It's a lone gunslinger space western with a Baby Yoda.


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