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Chris Meck 04-01-2020 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 14880617)
The same guys Hunt flourished with are the same guys we have now. Could the line be better? Sure...but until we get a quality back we'll never really know if your motion is true. I mean Williams In the playoffs didn't look too bad so just imagine a better rb? :D

You keep saying this. It isn't true.

Morse is gone. LDT is not the same as before the injury bug hit.

Protecting Mahomes must be THE priority. A better line also will result in a better running game. This also helps Mahomes.

Chiefspants 04-01-2020 01:09 PM

Damien has been getting too much disrespect around these parts. He was the perfect RB in Reid's offense with a shaky OL in the back half of the season. He willed his way to help us secure enormous wins against the Chargers and 49ers. Dude has earned a chance to be our starter next season, imo.

Chris Meck 04-01-2020 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 14880681)
Damien has been getting too much disrespect around these parts. He was the perfect RB in Reid's offense with a shaky OL in the back half of the season. He willed his way to help us secure enormous wins against the Chargers and 49ers. Dude has earned a chance to be our starter next season, imo.

his problem is staying healthy enough to be effective.

I'm not against bringing in competition/depth as I don't expect him to make a full season. He never has.

I just don't think ANY back is going to put up numbers behind this interior offensive line, which is below average from guard to guard.

This is, in my opinion, the most crucial area that must be upgraded on the entire team. One more injury in there is a disaster. We need TWO upgrades minimum.

Chiefspants 04-01-2020 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 14880691)
his problem is staying healthy enough to be effective.

I'm not against bringing in competition/depth as I don't expect him to make a full season. He never has.

I just don't think ANY back is going to put up numbers behind this interior offensive line, which is below average from guard to guard.

This is, in my opinion, the most crucial area that must be upgraded on the entire team. One more injury in there is a disaster. We need TWO upgrades minimum.

I'm not opposed to depth or drafting a RB to be the primary #2 for a season. It's just baffling to me to see folks (mainly outside this thread) talking about Damien like he's a liability. Dude was nails for us in critical spots with a patchwork OL this year.

Chief Roundup 04-01-2020 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 14880617)
The same guys Hunt flourished with are the same guys we have now. Could the line be better? Sure...but until we get a quality back we'll never really know if your motion is true. I mean Williams In the playoffs didn't look too bad so just imagine a better rb? :D

Wrong as usual.

Mecca 04-01-2020 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 14880694)
I'm not opposed to depth or drafting a RB to be the primary #2 for a season. It's just baffling to me to see folks (mainly outside this thread) talking about Damien like he's a liability. Dude was nails for us in critical spots with a patchwork OL this year.

We were one of the worst rushing teams in the league.....Williams is basically a part of a tandem not a feature.

Chris Meck 04-01-2020 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14880700)
We were one of the worst rushing teams in the league.....Williams is basically a part of a tandem not a feature.

It's a chicken or the egg game.

Were we bad at running for most of the year because of the ball carriers?

Or were we bad at running because Fisher missed half the season, and our guards and center sucked balls for most of the year?

I say it ain't gonna matter until we fix that interior line situation.

Wisniewski off the bench helped a lot, but he's gone.

LDT is now below average. Wylie's a dumpster fire. Reiter sucks and is not NFL starter level.

That's just not acceptable when you have Patrick Mahomes at QB. Fix the line before we get him killed.

I'm down with a Cam Akers in the 3rd IF we've drafted a C or G in the first two rounds AND signed a veteran upgrade.

If not, I'm okay with an Anthony McFarland in the 4th.

Pasta Little Brioni 04-01-2020 01:33 PM

Williams is fine in spurts, but has shown unreliable over an entire whole season. Find a compliment and Dust him off for the postseason

Chiefspants 04-01-2020 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14880700)
We were one of the worst rushing teams in the league.....Williams is basically a part of a tandem not a feature.

Interior O-Line and Andy's style of offense are more to blame there. With Patrick Mahomes, I doubt Andy will ever feature an elite running offense again. Andy needs an RB who can catch passes, chip DE's out of the backfield, and be a viable option when Tyreek and Kelce are getting smothered. Also an RB and a running game that would be respected enough for their effective 15 carries a game that teams have to respect the play action.

Andy incorporated the run perfectly for his style of play in the Super Bowl. He caught the 49ers napping on multiple occasions and gashed them when they cheated on run D late in the game. If he sticks to the run like that (even if the running back is only getting around 15 carries a game) that will always propel Mahomes and the passing game to another level. When Kareem caught fire in 2018, the offense was basically unstoppable. Andy found his footing on the ground again late in the year, and Damien was a big part of that.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 04-01-2020 01:40 PM

Texans sign DT Tim Jernigan

OKchiefs 04-01-2020 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 14880681)
Damien has been getting too much disrespect around these parts. He was the perfect RB in Reid's offense with a shaky OL in the back half of the season. He willed his way to help us secure enormous wins against the Chargers and 49ers. Dude has earned a chance to be our starter next season, imo.

He's never proven to be able to carry the load for an entire season. He's better as part of a platoon.

Kiimo 04-01-2020 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 14880575)
Which do you choose....

Dee Ford
1st rounder
2nd rounder

Frank Clark
Super bowl
2nd rounder

Tough call! Damn that Veach!!

lol exactly only the second rounder in the second scenario is actually one spot ahead of the other one.

Titty Meat 04-01-2020 02:00 PM

I would be totally cool drafting Ruiz in the first. Our interior is garbage and you cant pay Mahomes 200 mil with that kind of trash protecting him.

Chiefspants 04-01-2020 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 14880823)
He's never proven to be able to carry the load for an entire season. He's better as part of a platoon.

We’ve only had him 2 seasons and he was a back-up his first season here. I’d be up to have this be his “make or break year” with a rookie/Darwin as the #2. Kareem was supposed to be the back-up his first year until Ware went down. With any luck we’d have a rookie who could fill in for Damien if he proved he couldn’t carry the load over 17 games (yuck, I still hate that).

OKchiefs 04-01-2020 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 14880880)
We’ve only had him 2 seasons and he was a back-up his first season here. I’d be up to have this be his “make or break year” with a rookie/Darwin as the #2. Kareem was supposed to be the back-up his first year until Ware went down. With any luck we’d have a rookie who could fill in for Damien if he proved he couldn’t carry the load over 17 games (yuck, I still hate that).

I don't want to replace Williams, but I also don't trust him without a competent backup. I'm not sure if Darwin is the guy or not. I think we need to acquire more depth there.


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