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My thoughts are we can again compete in 2019. Reyes will be ready for a full load as a starter. Flaherty, Hudson, alcantra and Weaver will all be further along and ready to help at the MLB level. If starting pitching is so valuable, why sell low now. Let your assets mature then sell. We need to spend some of the new cable money and buy some bats. Moose or Hosmer this year. 2018 off season pay Marchado $300 million. We need a banger at 3B and defense. We have the damn money, spend it on the real deal. Is it possible to make a prospective mid season trade with Baltimore and then approach Marchado with a $300 million long term deal? Is that allowed under the MLB rules? |
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You have Martinez who is a solid pitcher. In years past I would have called him an ace but if last year becomes more of the norm then I would drop him to a #2. Wainwright is done. Wacha would probably slot in as the 4 with Mikolas the #5, but who the **** knows what you are going to get with Mikolas now that hes back in the majors. He had good years in Japan but Japan is not MLB and he wasn't good at all during his previous time in the majors. The rest of your rotation is filled with question marks. Weaver and Flaherty may turn out to be good pitchers but what they have to shown so far in the majors isnt inspiring of anything great, maybe a couple of passable mid rotation arms. Reyes was suppose to be the future headliner of the rotation but even before he blew out his arm he couldn't help but walk nearly 5 batters per 9. He's going to spend at least a year trying to get back to where he was and who knows if he's ever able to make it out of the bullpen and be an effective starter. By then you've already used up 2 years of service time until you are ready to see if he can be that ace. Thats why teams make trades for known commodities. You are trading question marks for certainty. |
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We Will probably suck this year. Works for me to save our talent to compete in 2019. |
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Not pitching it as the key deal, just something that would be a better option, IMO, that Colome. I disagree with the JAG take on Alexander. He led the majors in groundball rate (at 74 percent) and posted the same K/9, basically, as Colome. He's a lefty who sits 93-94 with a power sinker that induces groundballs at a tremendous rate. |
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I'd give up Grichuk for him. Maybe. But only if I couldn't get him moved as part of a deal for Givens first. He's gonna be like Seth Maness and if the league adjusts to him even a little bit, he simply won't have a plan B to fall back on. He's a 1-pitch pitcher who doesn't command that one pitch particularly well. |
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I'd be right with you if I wasn't aware of a few extenuating circumstances. First, he was diagnosed with diabetes in 2016 and got that in order. This allowed him to add and hold velocity. He also adjusted his approach - to throw the sinker more, almost exclusively. The pitch is not just a good sinker. It's a really great one. He isn't Zach Britton, but the pitch is good enough to stand on its own as a weapon. Here's a good read on it from Royals Review: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.roy...xanders-sinker |
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Archer may not have the numbers to put him in the conversation with Kershaw, Bumgarner, and Sale, but I have no issue with calling him a top 20 pitcher in MLB. I'm not saying the Cardinals should or shouldn't go after Archer, but there's a reason why guys of similar talent and financial saving cost so damn much. |
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The market for <a href="https://twitter.com/Marlins?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Marlins</a> Marcell Ozuna is starting to build. I'm hearing 6-8 clubs have some level of interest in the All-Star outfielder. The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Nationals?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Nationals</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/STLCards?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#STLCards</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SFGiants?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SFGiants</a> are among teams interested.</p>— Joe Frisaro (@JoeFrisaro) <a href="https://twitter.com/JoeFrisaro/status/940362528810512384?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 11, 2017</a></blockquote>
<script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> Well... have fun with that bidding war. |
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Wades Davis was fine all year, health wise |
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There were times where he couldn't hit the strike zone if his life depended on it and if it wasn't for blind luck of having a 110 MPH line drive find a glove or coming in with a 3 run lead to give up 2 runs he would have blown quite a bit of saves. He only pitched 58.2 innings and you could clearly tell he was running on fumes in the 2nd half. His SO/W ratio was damn near 1 for the months of July and August and 5 of the 6 HR's he gave up came in August/Sept. I'm not completely thrilled with the Morrow signing but I'm relieved in the fact that giving him $21M in guaranteed money for 2 years all but eliminates them from signing Davis to $60-70M for 4-5 years. Wade has had 2 years in a row of solid regression. |
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Yeah, he stayed on the active roster all year but the rumblings all season were that he was never quite 100% and Maddon was working some minor miracles to keep him healthy. I know the guy I saw pitch this year walked a tightrope a hell of a lot more often than the peak version of him in KC. His effectiveness has waned a bit. EDIT: It appears JD already covered this. |
Apparently the orioles are open to moving Machado
Wonder what we’d have to send them to come in 2nd in that race |
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I asked this before. Can we agree to terms with the Orioles and then talk to Marchado about a long term deal? If we can't get a long term deal worked out, no trade? |
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Yes, that's a very clear indictment of this front office. Sure, they tried hard, but they failed because of a hole they dug. If Joe Maddon is a Cardinal right now, so is Giancarlo Stanton. If they'd have made a move on Andrelton Simmons instead of banking on Jhonny Peralta to bounce back, who knows where we stand. If they wouldn't have pussed out on the Moncada sweepstakes so they could keep their powder dry for an incredibly underwhelming 2016 international haul, maybe they get him moved for Sale and things are entirely different. Maybe if they target Freeman instead of Heyward in the Shelby Miller deal. Maybe if they're more aggressive in 2015 and instead of getting Moss to do nothing in the post-season they get Cespedes and he helps them knock off the Cubs and changes the entire narrative around the NL Central. John Mozeliak has done a poor job running this team for 4-5 years now and it's biting him. There are 100 different things he could've done over the last several years to put this team in a better situation but by and large he's done precisely dick. And the team is feeling the results of that. And yes, the Cardinals could ask for a negotiating window with Machado and insist that any trade is contingent on an agreed contract extension. They may well get the window - I don't think they'll get the extension unless it has an immediate opt-out. Probably in 2020 so he can get involved in a more barren FA market and get a contract that takes him deeper into his decline years. |
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