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ToxSocks 03-20-2024 10:13 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17450345)
It's an opinion based on watching them.


NFL scouts are raving about AD Mitchell's routes.

Sanders is also slick.

If you like Worthy, you have to promote his speed but his route running won't be a + at the next level.
No. I want you to show me clips of Mitchell's amazing route running. And show me why Worthy's route running is no good.

I feel like people are just saying things.

bigjosh 03-20-2024 10:20 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ModSocks (Post 17451097)
No. I want you to show me clips of Mitchell's amazing route running. And show me why Worthy's route running is no good.

I feel like people are just saying things.

Because people are just saying things. Objectively, worthy odd much more ready to produce day one in an nfl offense


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ToxSocks 03-20-2024 10:20 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17450400)
Modsocks and I had a debate about route running and WR's a few drafts ago.

My recollection was he said it was not important or that there was no way to know who was better than another.

So we made a bet by both picking our sleeper WR after the top guys were gone.


He chose John Metchie.

I chose Khalil Shakir.
Yeah i dont remember that. I don't recall being a strong Metchie proponent. Though im sure i did say something like, most of us can't see route running through YouTube highlights and that route running can be taught so long as the physical ability is there. Because i 100% believe that.

loochy 03-20-2024 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17450437)
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chiefforlife 03-20-2024 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17450437)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ladd McConkey route running <br><br> <a href="https://t.co/Tm8oyoy9cL">pic.twitter.com/Tm8oyoy9cL</a></p>&mdash; Scott Barrett (@ScottBarrettDFB) <a href="https://twitter.com/ScottBarrettDFB/status/1770111664270028889?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 19, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
No one will be able to cover that guy!

Pasta Little Brioni 03-20-2024 11:38 AM
Lulz imagine thumping your chest about Shitkur being slightly above a JAG

MahomesMagic 03-20-2024 02:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ModSocks (Post 17451111)
Yeah i dont remember that. I don't recall being a strong Metchie proponent. Though im sure i did say something like, most of us can't see route running through YouTube highlights and that route running can be taught so long as the physical ability is there. Because i 100% believe that.
Yes, that sounds like what you said a few years ago.

While I won't say it is impossible someone just gets better at running routes in the NFL, it is just unlikely.

If you want to see what top end route running looks like, just throw on some Justin Jefferson or Davonte Adams.

Once you see that then contrast that with someone who is poor at it, such as Mecole Hardman. Worthy is harder to do because he isn't poor, but mediocre.

So concentrate on the high end and low end first.

It is why I was critical of the Mecole pick when guys like DK, McLaurin, and Diontae were all still on the board and all obviously much better at it than Mecole.

Most players that are weak or mediocre at route running don't change substantially.

AD Mitchell is already very good but he is not quite a finished product. I think he is very, very close. So I will trust that a guy can make a minor improvement but not bank on a substantial category change:

raw to mediocre

or mediocre to good

Zebedee DuBois 03-20-2024 02:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17450437)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ladd McConkey route running <br><br> <a href="https://t.co/Tm8oyoy9cL">pic.twitter.com/Tm8oyoy9cL</a></p>&mdash; Scott Barrett (@ScottBarrettDFB) <a href="https://twitter.com/ScottBarrettDFB/status/1770111664270028889?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 19, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Hands are suspect.

MahomesMagic 03-20-2024 03:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brioni (Post 17451217)
Lulz imagine thumping your chest about Shitkur being slightly above a JAG

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Shakir >>>> Sky Moore

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 03-20-2024 03:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zebedee DuBois (Post 17451564)
Hands are suspect.
He has a drop rate of 6.3% which is 1 spot better than Marvin Harrison jr

Kman34 03-20-2024 04:38 PM
ROFL Dancing kid not ready for an out route..

FlaChief58 03-20-2024 05:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17450437)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ladd McConkey route running <br><br> <a href="https://t.co/Tm8oyoy9cL">pic.twitter.com/Tm8oyoy9cL</a></p>&mdash; Scott Barrett (@ScottBarrettDFB) <a href="https://twitter.com/ScottBarrettDFB/status/1770111664270028889?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 19, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
That is simply awesome

staylor26 03-26-2024 04:32 PM
Rice and Hollywood working out with Pat and Stroupe again:

https://i.imgur.com/zuYrt32.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/oBdgSTi.jpeg

I am guessing this will be a regular thing all offseason now.

Bowser 03-26-2024 06:27 PM
For a second it looked like htismaqe liked the tweet

dlphg9 03-26-2024 09:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ModSocks (Post 17451097)
No. I want you to show me clips of Mitchell's amazing route running. And show me why Worthy's route running is no good.

I feel like people are just saying things.
He has no clue how to determine how good a player is at running routes. I have no clue either, but I'm not pretending that I do. I just look at what people that are more knowledgeable than I am and see what they say.

I have looked at close to 10 different people with popular blogs/websites and there isn't one that says Worthy is a bad route runner. It's actually the complete and total opposite. Everything I've read has said that he is an elite route runner and one of the best in the country.

That idiot has no clue what he is talking about.

BossChief 03-26-2024 09:45 PM
So….

Are college guys going to be practicing with Pat, Hollywood and Rice in Texas?

Might as well take advantage of it before the NFL shuts it down.

Hoover 03-26-2024 10:21 PM
They will only tease guys we have not interest in drafting. We didn't't know about Rice until after thee draft, right?

BossChief 03-27-2024 11:02 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 17459158)
They will only tease guys we have not interest in drafting. We didn't't know about Rice until after thee draft, right?
Pat had sessions with Rice and Flowers last year and there were some rumors that Veach tried to move up to get Flowers and intended to try to get both. May have been true as they chose a WR in FA with a similar skill set this year to pair with Rice.

crispystl 03-27-2024 11:50 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 17459523)
Pat had sessions with Rice and Flowers last year and there were some rumors that Veach tried to move up to get Flowers and intended to try to get both. May have been true as they chose a WR in FA with a similar skill set this year to pair with Rice.
Damn that would’ve been should a good duo.

Dunerdr 03-27-2024 01:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 17459523)
Pat had sessions with Rice and Flowers last year and there were some rumors that Veach tried to move up to get Flowers and intended to try to get both. May have been true as they chose a WR in FA with a similar skill set this year to pair with Rice.
He had Quentin Johnston or whatever the Chargers drafted. There was only two I remember knowing about and that was Flowers and Johnston. We found out about Rice after the fact. No telling who all he actually threw with.

staylor26 04-03-2024 04:50 PM
https://i.imgur.com/EeoYdSl.jpeg

Abba-Dabba 04-04-2024 02:47 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-media-max-width="560"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here&#39;s the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Mahomes?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Mahomes</a> throwing session with some great snags by &quot;Hollywood&quot; Brown! 🏈 🎥 : IG | shotby.zb <a href="https://t.co/ClwuYxI7Zd">pic.twitter.com/ClwuYxI7Zd</a></p>&mdash; Starcade Media (@StarcadeMediaKC) <a href="https://twitter.com/StarcadeMediaKC/status/1775926513616949575?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 4, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 04-04-2024 02:51 PM
Brock Bowers seen working out with Mahomes…

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">brock bowers <a href="https://t.co/fFty2jsQer">pic.twitter.com/fFty2jsQer</a></p>&mdash; Director1k (@1zaysavage) <a href="https://twitter.com/1zaysavage/status/1775929436225056770?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 4, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Jerm 04-04-2024 02:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 17471074)
Brock Bowers seen working out with Mahomes…

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">brock bowers <a href="https://t.co/fFty2jsQer">pic.twitter.com/fFty2jsQer</a></p>&mdash; Director1k (@1zaysavage) <a href="https://twitter.com/1zaysavage/status/1775929436225056770?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 4, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
I'm not even gonna allow myself to entertain this LOL...

carcosa 04-04-2024 02:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 17471074)
Brock Bowers seen working out with Mahomes…

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">brock bowers <a href="https://t.co/fFty2jsQer">pic.twitter.com/fFty2jsQer</a></p>&mdash; Director1k (@1zaysavage) <a href="https://twitter.com/1zaysavage/status/1775929436225056770?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 4, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
IT'S HAPPENING!!!!!

FloridaMan88 04-04-2024 03:04 PM
Picturing a Kelce + Bowers 2 TE set…

staylor26 04-04-2024 03:05 PM
Bowers being there is definitely interesting.

Probably means everybody and their mom will be there eventually.

New World Order 04-04-2024 03:05 PM
Brock Bowers looks like an accountant BUT HE IS INDEED A FOOTBALL PLAYER!!!!!

C-Mac 04-04-2024 03:10 PM
Isn't that Rice with red bandana at the end of the video next to Brown?

staylor26 04-04-2024 03:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by C-Mac (Post 17471111)
Isn't that Rice with red bandana at the end of the video next to Brown?
He looks similar but 99% sure that's not him.

C-Mac 04-04-2024 03:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17471112)
He looks similar but 99% sure that's not him.
Was thinking at first it might have been Irv Smith, but it appears he has different clothes on.

RedinTexas 04-04-2024 03:22 PM
I hope Skyy is learning to catch.

Bowser 04-04-2024 03:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RedinTexas (Post 17471126)
I hope Skyy is learning to catch and learn the proper route trees.
FIFY

raybec 4 04-04-2024 03:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17471112)
He looks similar but 99% sure that's not him.
I think it is Rice

Nightfyre 04-04-2024 03:52 PM
We sure that's not Watson, rather than Bowers?

Sofa King 04-04-2024 07:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 17471074)
Brock Bowers seen working out with Mahomes…

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">brock bowers <a href="https://t.co/fFty2jsQer">pic.twitter.com/fFty2jsQer</a></p>&mdash; Director1k (@1zaysavage) <a href="https://twitter.com/1zaysavage/status/1775929436225056770?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 4, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Our first and second could get us to about pick 20 LMAO

WhawhaWhat 04-05-2024 08:11 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A sneak peek of what&#39;s coming to KC �� (via <a href="https://twitter.com/PatrickMahomes?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@PatrickMahomes</a>)<a href="https://twitter.com/Primetime_jet?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Primetime_jet</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Chiefs</a> <a href="https://t.co/c0HjVBt6uD">pic.twitter.com/c0HjVBt6uD</a></p>&mdash; NFL (@NFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFL/status/1776248428122554418?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 5, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

staylor26 04-05-2024 09:28 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 17471152)
I think it is Rice
I've confirmed it's not him. It's Izaiah Gathings.

BigBeauford 04-05-2024 09:53 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sofa King (Post 17471491)
Our first and second could get us to about pick 20 LMAO
Getting Jay Leno's bastard son would be amazing.

Warpaint69 04-05-2024 09:56 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 17471156)
We sure that's not Watson, rather than Bowers?
Watson don't have that sort of hairline

The Franchise 04-05-2024 09:58 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Warpaint69 (Post 17472023)
Watson don't have that sort of hairline
Or those legs.

tredadda 04-05-2024 10:53 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sofa King (Post 17471491)
Our first and second could get us to about pick 20 LMAO
If lucky. Teams are making it more and more clear how little they want to actually trade with KC because it seems like Veach always wins the trade.

WhawhaWhat 04-18-2024 09:18 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mahomes to Hollywood…get used to it.<br><br>Hollywood running a “special seam” route at the #3 WR. Look how he climbs on the Mike LB then takes it high for a landmark of 18-22yds vs Single High Zone. <br><br>DETAILS are what makes the Chiefs offense lethal<br> <a href="https://t.co/pwiXt659YE">pic.twitter.com/pwiXt659YE</a></p>&mdash; Chase Daniel (@ChaseDaniel) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChaseDaniel/status/1780973418948755631?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 18, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

In58men 04-18-2024 09:21 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 17485505)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mahomes to Hollywood…get used to it.<br><br>Hollywood running a “special seam” route at the #3 WR. Look how he climbs on the Mike LB then takes it high for a landmark of 18-22yds vs Single High Zone. <br><br>DETAILS are what makes the Chiefs offense lethal<br> <a href="https://t.co/pwiXt659YE">pic.twitter.com/pwiXt659YE</a></p>&mdash; Chase Daniel (@ChaseDaniel) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChaseDaniel/status/1780973418948755631?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 18, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
I heard that hoodie he’s wearing is around $4,000

Jerm 04-18-2024 09:22 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 17485505)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mahomes to Hollywood…get used to it.<br><br>Hollywood running a “special seam” route at the #3 WR. Look how he climbs on the Mike LB then takes it high for a landmark of 18-22yds vs Single High Zone. <br><br>DETAILS are what makes the Chiefs offense lethal<br> <a href="https://t.co/pwiXt659YE">pic.twitter.com/pwiXt659YE</a></p>&mdash; Chase Daniel (@ChaseDaniel) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChaseDaniel/status/1780973418948755631?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 18, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
It's a guy running a route in a hoody with no one else on the field but ok lol...

BigRedChief 04-18-2024 09:30 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 17485512)
It's a guy running a route in a hoody with no one else on the field but ok lol...
Sounds like King Carls comment.... I dont get excited about players running around in their underwear.

Mahomes says he is most impressed with his route running. I've seen some clips of him him practicing with Mahomes where he did some really sharp cuts. Better than anyone we have ever had, besides Tyreek, in a long time that also had the speed.

Jerm 04-18-2024 09:32 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 17485533)
Sounds like King Carls comment.... I dont get excited about players running around in their underwear.

Mahomes says he is most impressed with his route running. I've seen some clips of him him practicing with Mahomes where he did some really sharp cuts. Better than anyone we have ever had, besides Tyreek, in a long time that also had the speed.
I'm def. excited about him and the route running don't me wrong...I just think Chase is being a bit overzealous with his breakdown there lol.

O.city 04-18-2024 09:36 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 17485512)
It's a guy running a route in a hoody with no one else on the field but ok lol...
Well...those little details probably matter....

staylor26 04-18-2024 09:48 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17485539)
Well...those little details probably matter....
Exactly. Daniel is just pointing out what they're practicing here and how Hollywood will be used.

Warpaint69 04-18-2024 09:51 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17485553)
Exactly. Daniel is just pointing out what they're practicing here and how Hollywood will be used.
Considering how much teams refuse to play the Chiefs in man, working on detail in routes to beat zone is a good thing.

WhawhaWhat 04-18-2024 09:52 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 17485512)
It's a guy running a route in a hoody with no one else on the field but ok lol...
in the offseason even!

ptlyon 04-18-2024 09:53 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 17485505)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mahomes to Hollywood…get used to it.<br><br>Hollywood running a “special seam” route at the #3 WR. Look how he climbs on the Mike LB then takes it high for a landmark of 18-22yds vs Single High Zone. <br><br>DETAILS are what makes the Chiefs offense lethal<br> <a href="https://t.co/pwiXt659YE">pic.twitter.com/pwiXt659YE</a></p>&mdash; Chase Daniel (@ChaseDaniel) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChaseDaniel/status/1780973418948755631?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 18, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Who's the midget?

ThrobProng 04-18-2024 09:54 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 17485557)
Who's the midget?
I thought it was "Bring Your Son to Work" day or something.

Jerm 04-18-2024 10:00 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 17485557)
Who's the midget?
Better question, who is that behind Hollywood with the LeBron hairline? Irv Smith Jr.?

Dunerdr 04-18-2024 10:08 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 17485535)
I'm def. excited about him and the route running don't me wrong...I just think Chase is being a bit overzealous with his breakdown there lol.
You just don't get it. There was an imaginary legion of boom defense there and he torched it. Get hyped!

Megatron96 04-18-2024 02:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 17485505)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mahomes to Hollywood…get used to it.<br><br>Hollywood running a “special seam” route at the #3 WR. Look how he climbs on the Mike LB then takes it high for a landmark of 18-22yds vs Single High Zone. <br><br>DETAILS are what makes the Chiefs offense lethal<br> <a href="https://t.co/pwiXt659YE">pic.twitter.com/pwiXt659YE</a></p>&mdash; Chase Daniel (@ChaseDaniel) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChaseDaniel/status/1780973418948755631?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 18, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


I don't know how much weight you can give something like this, but at least he tracked and caught the ball better than MVS/Hardman ever did last season, so it's progress.

Pasta Little Brioni 04-18-2024 02:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 17485512)
It's a guy running a route in a hoody with no one else on the field but ok lol...
Exactly ROFL remember Sippio?

threebag 04-18-2024 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 17485557)
Who's the midget?
Looking at Franko?


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