Not sure how, but I had no idea who Terrance Smith was, so I looked him up. I'm still not sure I know who he is.

I don’t think anything happens until right before or the first week of training camp.

I don’t understand what he is doing. He doesn’t go to the ring ceremony when others who are definitely not going to be on the team this year showed up. Then he shows up at the BBQ fest?

But, still…. I think something gets done. Every year you need to pay someone top or close to top $ to keep them here to justify Mahomes taking a shit ton less than market value.

Next year you have Creed who will get a long term contract as the highest paid center of all time. Bolton and Trey Smith are up for new deals too.

Which is exactly why it would be something dumb to lie about, just like this.

I tend to remember the most obscure of players, so this one was strange for me.

He made the final 53 :shrug:

So we keep getting tidbits that they're optimistic this gets done.

Is it just a time thing at this point? Whats the hold up.

Jones is trying to get the Chiefs to guarantee him another locker for his junk

Didnt his last contract get done the first week of training camp? I don't see anywhere or anyone, no pundits, that thinks he's not going to sign. Veach will get it done.

"Rumblings " from blowhard media hacks but whatever....

Florida State Linebacker, right?

I think we had a DB named Smith that was a late round pick at the same time, but I think Terrance was the LB....

EDIT: Boom - nailed it! And the DB was named Tremon Smith from the '18 draft. Draft nerd shit for the motha****in' win!

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BONER JAMS 95!

What position did Tremon Smith switch to prior to getting cut by the Chiefs?

Didn't they REALLY briefly try him out at RB? Like...for a week? I think they were just trying to find some way to roster him so he could return kicks and I want to say they experimented with him as a 3rd down back sort of guy.

It didn't take.

I think it's funny the first 3 pages are people worried about Dontario Poe

Some hilariously terrible takes in here!

Lulz

Oof

Disappointing take

Thats what I get for trusting a draft guide :doh!:

RIP

Swing in a miss, somewhat.

Poe was definitely broken down. I can't remember, but I think it was a meh feeling mostly because of the limp dick trade down although the whole Maclin penalty stuff was bullshit.

Nailed it!

Those lower back herniated discs were killer for Poe. Just (understandably) didn't seem to have the same burst after those last surgeries.

I'm worried that if he gets his big new contract he will pull a Larry Johnson and get fat and lazy.

I'm not.

Oddly enough, I remember the other Smith (Tremont) but not this guy.

The extension will get announced on the 20th. The general framework was likely done a couple months ago and now it’s ironing out structure to make it manageable and fair for both sides.

I don't. He's still not a lock for the HOF. The only two things left for him is one final big contract and build that HOF resume.

This was the concern before he signed his previous contract after Super Bowl 54

Yeah if anything hes done the exact opposite. Dude has stayed in shape, wrote the playoff naysayers in the Bengals game.

Idk what else he was to prove to you to believe he's the kind of guy you want to keep and build around.

Dudes already gotten a massive contract and outplayed that, but some dipshit in here is worried that this is gonna be the contract that turns him lazy? I think he's proven that's not the type of player he is.

we'll be fine.

You’ll be happier if you stop worrying about imaginary shit.

Thought they were hoping that the other dt that's due an extension was going to get his done first to make sure they do right by Jones. Or that Jones is waiting for that to make sure he ends up #2 paid and not immediately bumped to #3.

idk. i was looking on football reference and did anyone else realize he only has two playoff sacks oh god oh no what if-

Quentin Williams extended. 4 years, $96 million. If that's what Jones was waiting on, hopefully his deal gets done soon now

Welp...Quinnen Williams got his deal. Do your thing Bart Vorch.

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Bert Verch? Time to re-earn your money.

Pay that man his money.

Have him whip that dick out and pay him $10 million per inch

That would be epic. I’d love to get paid $5 million

How about 4 million per centimeter?

Damn bro that's our entire cap on one player!

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He doesnt need to. He needs to follow Wilfork and stay for 4 rings for less

If there's ANY remotely viable reason for a veteran to miss camp, they're missing camp. It means nothing.

However, seeing him bitch up and join Maxx Crosby and the Silver and Black's Commitment to Excrement out of pure spite would be worth it just for the dullbundle of sticks9 suicide watch thread that it would spawn.

Homes has a bit of an unhealthy attachment to Cj95.

a franchise tag would be hard for the Chiefs to swallow with the cap space
Chris is in a great position right now

No, you win the 1billion $ lottery and pay $5 million to touch it LMAO

And you're on the complete opposite end of that spectrum. You've only talked shit on the dude and its all because you didn't wanna sign him to a big deal and then we did, so you had to make up shit each year about why it wasn't worth signing him. Any actual Chiefs fan wouldn't ever want that dude to leave and they damn sure wouldn't want him to go to a division rival. He'd absolutely wreck our shit. I can tell you're just a bitter little bitch about the whole thing and I honestly doubt youre actually a fan. If he left this year I guarantee you we would win 2-3 less games than we would with him. It'd drop our SB chances significantly.

You're just a miserable dumb shit scum bag. It doesn't surprise me that the guy that guy that talks shit on Andy Reid and call him Reidtard is talking about wanting Chris Jones to leave just because you're obsessed with me. ****ing weirdo.

Bart Vatch? Can we get his contract extension done already?!?

The real bitch of a franchise tag for Jones would be that he has a $19.5 million base this year. So his tag number isn't the roughly $20 million it'll likely be for a DT next year - it'll be about $23.5 million as that's 120% of his previous year's salary.

So yeah, he's in a nice negotiating position.

That said, the Chiefs are carrying him at $28 million right now. They can make it work at $23.5. But they'd probably just end up trading him instead because you really can't tag him a 2nd time; those numbers are just cost prohibitive. He'd be on the books at $28 million for a 2nd tag and a completely unpalatable $40 million for a 3rd tag year. That's $90 million for 3 seasons under the tag plus a $28 million cap hit this year that's not alleviated. So you're talking about $120 million in cap charges over 4 years for a DT.

Nah, we ain't doing that.

If we can't get an extension done prior to the season, we still tag him for 2024 but a tag/trade is almost certainly going to have to happen for 2025 if it gets to that.

If a past history repeats itself, his new deal will be announced late tomorrow or wait till media dump Friday afternoon.

Pretty sure all his guranteed money has been paid. He'd be smart to sign before the season.

Huh?

He's a vested veteran - all $19.5 million in base salary this season will be paid if he's on the roster on Day 1.

And they ain't cutting him anyway.

And any franchise tag money will be guaranteed. Unless he suffers a catastrophic injury next season (which seems unlikely for an interior lineman who's simply bigger and more flexible than most people), he'll get tagged - which is also going to be guaranteed.

No, he's under no pressure to extend. But I sure wouldn't mind it if he did.

Speaking of unhealthy obsessions, pot meet kettle.

Ain't nothing unhealthy or obsessive about how much I like Chris Jones. He's the best defender this team has had since DT. Yeah I like him and don't want him to go anywhere.

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Oh I know. Wasn’t referring to you in my comment. I just see the irony in someone chasing someone else around a message board calling them obsessive.

For most of us we would be happy to sign that 57.5 million dollar contract

If he tears an ACL he won't get tagged. Just saying he has no money in 24 secured right now. He would be wise to take a deal.

Wallcrawler, you still haven't answered my question. Where would you rank in-game decisions such as knowing when to call timeouts on the list of most important skills an NFL coach should possess?

Is it near the top for you?

You don't think we already have problems with the Chargers and Raiders pass rush? Adding Chris Jones would push one of those teams over the top. Chris Jones was better than anyone on that Eagles D Line. You're just an idiot dude. An idiot that trash talks our 2nd best player and a HC that is one of the top 5 best ever.

You're wrong, but can't admit it. Probably cuz youre an incredible douche.

Also, I find it hard to blame a coaching staff for giving up huge leads. You don't know what plays he ran or what happened. You're too stupid to know. Pussy

He's dumb as shit, good luck. I don't think you'll get an answer and if you do I can guarantee it's dumber than shit. Just like he is.

I would say you don't mishandle fringe HOF players but when the price isn't right you trade high. That's the story of Tyreek anyway.

They'll get it done, Chris is irreplaceable. Great pass rushing DT's are as rare as great QB's. There's so few and they come up big when it matters most. Chris is that guy.

jones is the last player worthy of trading for future talent.

kelce...

too much tread on his tyres.

i'm not for trading either, but jones would reap us heaps in return. :D

It'll get done. I'm not worried. It makes too much sense not to.

Hell, they might be even more rare.

A head coach should know how to properly use, or not use timeouts, and along with that, challenges on plays that don't ****ng matter early in a contest, that potentially cost you one of your 3 timeouts.

I'll go slow here, so try to keep up.

Superbowl V Buccanneers.

Game situation: Defense has not been able to stop a nosebleed, Patrick Mahomes has had zero protection, and our receivers forgot how to catch footballs.

2 minute warning of first half, Brady and the bucs run the football on first down, and do not spend a timeout, nor do they rush to the line.

Bruce Arians is content to surrender this possession, and go to half up 14-6, a mere 8 point lead.

Andy knows we get the ball to start second half. A possession is being surrendered and the chance to get out of this shitshow half and adjust with an opportunity to tie next drive.

Nah. It's not like our defense has already been flagged 6 times this half. TIMEOUT!!

Defense proceeds to give up 2 spot fouls leading to a TD when Brady, enraged at his gift being refused goes into scoring mode, now we're down 21-6 at half. Brilliant. Who saw that coming?


AFCCG V Bengals. Early in the game Andy throws a challenge flag for spot of the ball. In no way should this have been challenged on such an insignificant play so early.

KC loses the challenge, and a timeout.

Mere seconds left at the end of the half, 0 timeouts left, Andy Reid passes on a gimme FG. Patrick Mahomes tosses an ill fated pass to Hill behind the line of scrimmage, where he is tackled immediately and Mahomes is frantically calling timeout, a timeout he no longer has, because Big Red gambled it and lost it on a ****ing ball spot challenge in the first quarter.

The aftermath lives in infamy. The Chiefs are thrown into disarray after getting nothing before half, Mahomes seems to forget how to play football, Rabblerouser loses his mind and the Bengals go on to lose to stat padford and the lambs in the superbowl we should have been in.

I could go on, but yeah. Timeout and challenge management are pretty God damn important. Especially when ****ing it up on the biggest stage cripples your chances of winning.

Hard truth remains fellas, Andy Reid has lost more post season contests that he was the favorite to win, than any other head coach in history.

It doesn't happen by accident.

Agreed. Can’t see why they wouldn’t as it is beneficial to both at this point.

That’s not what I asked you. I didn’t ask if they were goddamn important or not. I asked you what you value the most in a head coach.

Is clock management your #1 coaching trait?

Todd Haley had great clock management from what I can remember. Let’s hire him

Awful take and definitely a product of hindsight.

1. Most coaches would have tried to call a timeout in that SB. In hindsight it was the wrong call, but at the time the chance to get a score before halftime is hard to pass up. To know in that moment that KC would not get the ball back and TB would score a TD was not a given. Teams defer to the 2nd half for a reason and one of those is to have the chance to score twice before the other team touches the ball. Did it work? Nope. But zero issues with the call.

2. In the AFCCG, KC was moving the ball at will and scoring at will on Cincy in the first half. Going for it vs the FG was not a bad call. Had Hill scored it would have looked bold and seen as a great idea. It's only ridiculed because it did not work and now the viewpoint is he should have kicked the FG. KC still went in the locker room with a healthy lead and there was zero reason for the meltdown of the offense and Mahomes in the second half. To criticize Reid for a play not working when everything else did screams of hate and hindsight coaching. The lost timeout is NOT the reason for that loss.

The cinci one is on Mahomes. Throw it to an open Kelce, or over his head out of the endzone.

LMAO Also, that 'hard truth' I've seem him mention a multitude of times? Loses quite a bit of bite when you take into consideration Reid has head coached in the second most playoff games in NFL history.

And won the second most I believe.

You're seriously gonna act like Reid trying to get the ball back at before half, which he has always done since PMII has been here, to try and score was a bad idea at the time? He's getting the blame for the refs driving the Bucs down the field? You're blaming Andy for the Bengals loss? That's on Mahomes. Reid put them in position to win and they didn't capitalize.

Andy Reid very rarely wastes time outs and very often has 2-3 at the end of each half. He's better than most at that.

Id like to see the stats on losing the most playoff games that he was favored in, but I'd put that more towards him being so good if a coach that he takes mediocre QBs to the playoffs and they choke. He's 11-3 since Patrick Mahomes has started. What other coaches were so good that they drug mediocrity to the playoffs year after year?

You're such an idiot.

Yeah, if guaranteed money is the issue, figure that out.

Ultimately I just don't have many concerns regarding his level of effort. ESPECIALLY when he's a guy who's done nothing but mature and get better in that regard since he's gotten here. He's gotten more trim, more fit, more dedicated seemingly every year.

Why would that flip? The only worry I ever had was when we flipped from a 3-4 to a 4-3 and I was worried he wouldn't be willing to do the grunt work from an interior tackle that would've been more extreme than as a 3-tech. But he's very obviously proven that concern was unfounded.

Pay the man. Guarantee the largest percentage in league history for a DT. The only concern I might actually have would be on a 3 vs. 4 year extension. Paying him through age 32 is just fine for me but age 33 at top of the market money? Eeeeehhhhhhh......