Yeah. Pointing out a team no longer had the services of a Hall of Fame defensive coaching talent is cherry picking.

:rolleyes:

Who started this jackass rumor about trading Tyreek?

Benjamin Allbright.

Geoff Schwartz piling on with his dumb opinion.

Ah, I see, a friggin Donkey reporter. Makes sense. I thought he was too busy getting trolled the F' out by barstoolies and making legal threats LMAO

The Hill trade talk is so dumb.

We wouldn’t trade him to a contender and have it bite us in the ass later.

No team that is building would mortgage their future by giving the Chiefs multiple firsts to get him.

Watkins instead of Hill if they are going to dangle anyone. And who wants that contract and injury history ?:rolleyes:

Ben is a guy with little to no real sources that somehow is still employed.

He straight up makes things up.

Lots of those guys out there. He should have been fired after the Evan Mathis stuff.

Not many.

1969 Chiefs
1976 Steelers
1985 Bears
1986 Giants
2000 Ravens
2002 Bucanneers
2008 Steelers
2013 Seahawks
2015 Broncos

Every one of these defenses won the Super Bowl

How is it not?

No he doesn't

I don’t think it comes down to being great on offense or defense specifically. I think you need to either be elite on one side of the ball and competent on the other OR good on both sides of the ball.

Some of the examples above aren’t really relevant anymore. Are the Brad Johnsons or Trent Dilfers of the world going to be the QBs on Super Bowl winning teams in today’s NFL? Not likely.

Before anyone brings up Foles, the Eagles wouldn’t have had the 1 seed without Wentz having the season he did. Foles wouldn’t have made it to the Super Bowl as a wildcard.

10-7 playoff record with Jim Johnson, 2-7 without Jim Johnson.

But you're so right. There's nothing meaningful that can be inferred from this data.

Yeah you can do that with a lot of people. If you take away their most successful part of their career, what do you expect? It's like saying Michael Jordan wasn't as good as he was because he has a 5-15 playoff record without Phil Jackson. See how easy that is?

I said over a year ago that if I were starting a franchise from scratch, from the Chiefs organization I'd take Mahomes and Hill over everything, down to Arrowhead, Reid and Kansas City.

It's not like he had a ton of offensive help.

For a while he had Pinkston, Thrash and Freddie Mitchell as his receivers. The one complete year he had a dynamic receiving weapon in TO they went to the SB

Had he had Patrick Mahomes in 2004, he would most likely have a ring right now.