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Saccopoo 12-25-2014 06:38 PM

I'm liking West Virginia's Kevin White more and more.

I'm thinking he might be there when the Chiefs select. They are going to have a lot of options available to them I think.

O.city 12-26-2014 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 11217997)
I'm liking West Virginia's Kevin White more and more.

I'm thinking he might be there when the Chiefs select. They are going to have a lot of options available to them I think.

Yes.

Perfect.

jonzie04 12-26-2014 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 11217126)
I've really just set my sights on Justin Hardy. Reminds me of Odell Beckham. Really just an amazing player. I'm putting him in round 1, despite the pundits rankings. The guy is a serious talent. He's my Jordan Matthews for this year... I'll pound the ****ing table all offseason for the Chiefs to draft this kid... then they won't and they'll regret it. Either way, I have him firmly entrenched in my mind as a guy the Chiefs must consider at the top of the draft. He's perfect for this offense.

I've been setting my sights on Hardy a lot more lately as well. He reminds me a bit of Beckham as well. not quite as good, but they're around the same size, Hardy can make those ridiculous one handed catches, Both very quick. I think Beckham was a little more polished, and a little faster/all around athlete, but Hardys a great prospect.

gonefishin53 12-27-2014 10:10 AM

The first time I saw Justin Hardy play, I thought Lynn Swann. Not blazing fast but great agility, body control, incredible competitor, and catches everything he gets a hand on.

Snapplez 12-27-2014 12:51 PM

Shaq Thompson from Cincinatti looks pretty quick in his bowl game

OldSchool 12-29-2014 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by mszymko (Post 11217726)
Which FA wide receivers are expected to hit the open market and potentially end up with a new team?

I'm assuming guys like Thomas, Bryant, Maclin and even Royal will be signed by their current organizations. But what about guys like Harvin, Crabtree, Torrey Smith or Hakeem Nicks?

Crabtree, Smith and Nicks are just about as good as Bowe, but cheaper. I read Jet's might do a complete overhaul and let Harvin go, after a year in NY and being dropped by the Jets his price may be down. Would be great to trade Bowe out for a less expensive option.

If you want a #1 WR, you are going to have to draft him. No team, in today's NFL, is going to allow an elite/true #1 WR to walk unless they have serious character issues and you wouldn't want them on your team anyways if that is the case (TO).

RobBlake 12-29-2014 01:54 AM

Josh Harper will be praised for his mechanics at the combine and pro day... will be had by 4th round i predict.. loved watching him live

OldSchool 12-29-2014 02:40 AM

Not too big of a Harper fan, tbh. I follow Fresno State a bit because I'm from the Central Valley, but I don't think that he is anything special. Dime a dozen type of WR in the NFL.

jonzie04 12-29-2014 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 11226393)
If you want a #1 WR, you are going to have to draft him. No team, in today's NFL, is going to allow an elite/true #1 WR to walk unless they have serious character issues and you wouldn't want them on your team anyways if that is the case (TO).

You are 100% correct here. I do wonder how important a "#1" wr is in a reid system though. I think it would work extremely well with just a bunch of pretty good guys.

kcchiefsus 12-29-2014 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by jonzie04 (Post 11226446)
You are 100% correct here. I do wonder how important a "#1" wr is in a reid system though. I think it would work extremely well with just a bunch of pretty good guys.

Reid spent high draft picks/on #1 types with Jeremy Maclin and Desean Jackson. Let's not act like he undervalued the position.

jonzie04 12-29-2014 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by kcchiefsus (Post 11226497)
Reid spent high draft picks/on #1 types with Jeremy Maclin and Desean Jackson. Let's not act like he undervalued the position.

I never said, or acted like he undervalued the position. Reids fielded many of teams that finished out top 5 in the league in ypg, and points per game, with guys like Todd Pinkston and Kevin Curtis as the #1 WR on the team. The ball gets spread around a lot. I dont think its necessary to have a true elite #1 WR. But I do think it's necessary to have a group of pretty good guys who can all generate YAC. Obviously having an elite guy at the position is going to help, but Reids proven he can have success without one.

What is a #1 or #1 type wr anyways? Can anyone give me a definition? Maybe i have a different definition.

OldSchool 12-29-2014 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by jonzie04 (Post 11226549)
I never said, or acted like he undervalued the position. Reids fielded many of teams that finished out top 5 in the league in ypg, and points per game, with guys like Todd Pinkston and Kevin Curtis as the #1 WR on the team. The ball gets spread around a lot. I dont think its necessary to have a true elite #1 WR. But I do think it's necessary to have a group of pretty good guys who can all generate YAC. Obviously having an elite guy at the position is going to help, but Reids proven he can have success without one.

What is a #1 or #1 type wr anyways? Can anyone give me a definition? Maybe i have a different definition.

My idea of a true #1 is someone who can win anywhere on the field and is almost impossible to stop 1 on 1. The Johnsons, Jones, Green, Fitzgerald in his prime, Marshall, Vincent Jackson in his prime, Bryant, Thomas, etc.

jonzie04 12-29-2014 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 11226929)
My idea of a true #1 is someone who can win anywhere on the field and is almost impossible to stop 1 on 1. The Johnsons, Jones, Green, Fitzgerald in his prime, Marshall, Vincent Jackson in his prime, Bryant, Thomas, etc.

Those are the exact kind of guys who are #1's to me. Big body guys who can Catch 50/50 balls, out body you in the endzone, and can also burn you deep.

I really don't think a guy like that is necessary for a reid offense to thrive. Actually thats more of a fact not really just what I think lol. He's only had a guy like that once, for a few seasons.

OldSchool 12-29-2014 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by jonzie04 (Post 11227000)
Those are the exact kind of guys who are #1's to me. Big body guys who can Catch 50/50 balls, out body you in the endzone, and can also burn you deep.

I really don't think a guy like that is necessary for a reid offense to thrive. Actually thats more of a fact not really just what I think lol. He's only had a guy like that once, for a few seasons.

Right, he doesn't "need" a WR like that but when he had one, he got all the way to the Superbowl. It's not necessary in Reid's offense, but it will sure as hell help make things easier for him so that he doesn't always have to scheme everything open which can get stale as we saw this season.

jonzie04 12-29-2014 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 11227015)
Right, he doesn't "need" a WR like that but when he had one, he got all the way to the Superbowl. It's not necessary in Reid's offense, but it will sure as hell help make things easier for him so that he doesn't always have to scheme everything open which can get stale as we saw this season.

Thats very true, it certainly never hurts to have a guy like that.


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