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Skyy God 07-20-2018 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by srvy (Post 13636863)
Apparently England and Ireland who do the duck boat thing were close to banning them. Instead they fitted them with pontoons on each side making more stable and nearly unsinkable. They also removed the canopy something our Coast Guard and NTSB recommended but has not happened.

When I was young we went to Branson and Table Rock Lake often our Dad never took us on the Duck. Him being in the navy during WWII maybe he knew something about those boats. As kids we always wanted to but Dad never did Instead we went on the cruise ship or rented a boat.

There are very little regulations and they vary State to State I read on these things. Sort of like hot air balloon excursions any idiot can get a permit a balloon and start charging to float you into high voltage transmission lines. Still people will pay for the thrill.
So thee are known fixes the boat operator could have made to make the boats safer.

This just keeps getting better.

cooper barrett 07-20-2018 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ROYC75 (Post 13636826)
Criminal? Like what deadly force with a Duck?

Think Civil case, Negligence.
No

"Personal Injury" and "Wrongful Death" will certainly be filed in civil cases.


I think they could throw an involuntary manslaughter charge in, at the least, if they could show that the company's employees received the weather info and ignored it for profit.



I doubt any criminal charges will be filed in this case.

The stage collapse in IN never brought criminal charges even though the structure was built below building codes, killing seven people and injuring 58 others. It was settled as a class action at the tune of $50MM.

https://i0.wp.com/www.jimonlight.com...pg?w=617&ssl=1

cooper barrett 07-20-2018 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Ebolapox (Post 13636880)
I know they used to. my ex-wife spent a summer as the photographer at branson landing for ride the ducks (one of their two branson locations at that time) and they had radios (believe they were cb radios, don't quote me on that one) back then.

I will say, having been on one of the boats, they do offer you life vests but nobody puts them on... and table rock lake doesn't get that rough that often in my experience... that said, no way should they have let them on the water. poster before was correct, it's like an hour total for a duck ride
The time on the water is much less but i don't know how long.

Bob Dole 07-20-2018 01:54 PM
I’ve walked by them in Hot Springs many times, and not once have I even considered riding one.

HonestChieffan 07-20-2018 01:54 PM
This should lead to action to get some control over the boats on all MO lakes. LOTO is nuts . TR is not far behind.

BWillie 07-20-2018 02:00 PM
Wow horrible news. That is a ton dead, JFC. Thoughts and prayers, even though I don't believe in that stuff. Just awful.

MahiMike 07-20-2018 02:34 PM
That was some rough waters but those 'boats' didn't look too sea worthy. A real boat would not have had a problem with those waves.

pugsnotdrugs19 07-20-2018 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 13637065)
That was some rough waters but those 'boats' didn't look too sea worthy. A real boat would not have had a problem with those waves.
I’ve went on them in Branson before, many years ago. I’m a worry wart in general, but I definitely felt anxious the whole time while riding. You feel like you just rode a school bus into water. I always thought it was very strange that they didn’t enforce life jackets as mandatory, if nothing else for liability purposes.

jjchieffan 07-20-2018 02:44 PM
Just a thought about why the Duck was on the water. I live in Highlandville, just north of Branson. I started getting strong winds here about 6:40-6:45. I turned on the TV and saw the warnings. The one for this area was set to expire at 6:45 and it did. But, a few minutes later, a beautiful warning was issued. Maybe the Ducks went out during that time thinking that it was all clear.

Dartgod 07-20-2018 02:51 PM
9 members of one family among the dead. :shake:

http://kmbc.com/article/mass-casualt...488782?src=app

jjchieffan 07-20-2018 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob Dole (Post 13636953)
I’ve walked by them in Hot Springs many times, and not once have I even considered riding one.
I've rode them before, and I have no problem with riding one in the future. This was Branson's first Duck accident in 40 years. I take a bigger chance driving to Branson than I do getting on a Duck.

cooper barrett 07-20-2018 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob Dole (Post 13636953)
I’ve walked by them in Hot Springs many times, and not once have I even considered riding one.
The Lake Hamilton incident killed 13 of 21 vs. 17 of 31 in Branson.

https://s.abcnews.com/images/US/1999...in_4x3_992.jpg

https://abcnews.go.com/US/duck-boat-...ry?id=56707672

ThaVirus 07-20-2018 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Fish (Post 13636635)
That's the best bet to keep the boat upright. Going parallel to the waves will quickly capsize the boat.
Perpendicular, cousin.

Skyy God 07-20-2018 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by cooper barrett (Post 13637112)
Those things are motorized, floating IQ tests....

Flying High D 07-20-2018 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Dartgod (Post 13637101)
9 members of one family among the dead. :shake:

http://kmbc.com/article/mass-casualt...488782?src=app
What are the odds that not a one of those nine didn’t stand their ground and say we better hold off and ride this duck another time when it might be safer. I think it was ‘77 when the ducks came to Branson. The same year Elvis died when the ducks came to Branson. I was 13 took one look at those and said oh no. Half boat half Auto. Makes it not worth a crap. Spent years in the Army building bridges with them. We would put bays on them and carry tanks on them. Lost numerous troops, got hit by barges on the Rhein river in Germany.


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